The previews show conversions for female clothing. Does it work for male clothing as well? How about converting M3 clothing to the V3 male? Thanks

There shouldn't be any difference :o) It converts clothes from character a to character b, no matter (almost) what the characters are. At the moment it doesn't seem to like Kiki though...

I'm seriously considering purchasing this goodie. I've read a couple of the walk-throughs and it sounds really confusing...any suggestions for the Poser Impaired?

M3 to V3 works just fine. In fact, there are several outfits for M3 that I've converted over for V3 already. Version 1.1 is supposed to allow you to convert to a morphed figure, such as V3 with male morphs, but I haven't tried that part out yet. The program often takes a bit of work to get good results, but I'm happy with it. I've had some items fit with one click, others take over an hour. [I'm also picky and tend to do things the hard way.] I'd guess about 20-30 minutes per item for a very good fit on average. Hope this helps, Cres

Ok, how about M3 to M2, V3 to V2? Example: I love the "indiana jones" adventurers stuff that DAZ has but its only for M3. I have M2. Would it convert in that direction?

Suggestion 1: Watch the video tutorial.
Suggestion 2: Play with it for a bit, saving items that you don't care about just so you get a feel for the program.

Here's a quick, hopefully not-too technical version of the process:

Load the clothing item by selecting the .cr2 file. (That's the file you see when you go to the library in order to load the figure in Poser.)
Load the character it currently fits.
Load the character you want it to fit.

Click on Autoscale and the program will guestimate how the clothing should align and scale. I've had items that perfectly fit in place. I've had items that I reloaded because I didn't like the autoscale's guess. Usually it gives you a good start on the process.

After that, you select the clothing item (right click, select all) and move and scale it around so it roughly fits the character. You can turn the original figure transparent or the clothing item transparent for better visibility.

The last part is tweaking. You can select polygons or points and move those around. There are a few different selection tools you can use to get the parts you want. (In my opinion, it takes a little experimenting to see when polygons work better vs. points.) You also have the "soft select" option which is like a Poser magnet, but far easier to use. You center the magnet on a polygon or point and move it in a direction. Imagine having a sheet of taffy. Pinch a bit of it and pull. That's soft selection. You can increase the radius of the taffy pull so more of the model is affected.)

When you're done, you save the clothing item. You can select what to call the item's .cr2 file, what to label the new .obj file, and what clothing item to swipe the new .cr2 from. If you take the M3 casual pants, for example, and convert them for use on V3 Male, you might want to use the .cr2 file from the pants in the tunic pack since the tunic pants would move in similar ways to the newly converted casual pants.

One thing that I appreciate is that you can adjust how sensitive the program is to your mouse movements. I'm not very dexterious, so I set the defaults low so it takes a lot of movement to get much change in movement or scaling. It's much easier for me that way.

There is a video tutorial included, though being an impatient geek, I skipped it. I've heard some good comments about it, though.

Cheers!

No one has mentioned yet a glitch that I seem to have - the clothes convertor does not like external runtimes! My characters, V3, M3, S3, etc are in the main P5 Runtime with their morph packs, but I have external runtimes for everything associated with those characters. I wanted to convert a V3 piece of clothing for S3, got the item to load OK but then it would not load the source and destination figure's - I got a message - "Unable to load the model. Make sure the .obj file is stored in the correct location" I had to copy over the clothing item to the P5 runtime to get it to accept it!. So if everything is in one runtime folder clothes convertor is happy.

We keep cross-posting. :)

Yes, it does work. I did a really quick and dirty and it did work, although I should have selected a different donor .cr2 file because the joint parameters are slightly off. A part of the sleeve stayed in place when I moved M2 around. (That's my fault, not the program. Unless you say it messed up because it listened to me.) ;-)

The hardest part will be aligning the sleeves. (I'd post my quick conversion but I don't have time to properly align the sleeves right now.) The shoulder area is different so the sleeves are tricky. Very small amounts of Rotate on the Z axis going down the sleeve should do it. (I.e. select the entire sleeve, do a tiny rotate, deselect the sleeve. Select most of the sleeve, do another tiny rotate, deselect again. It keeps the sleeve more even than one obvious rotate at one juncture.)

One thing that I've found is sometimes when you conform the clothing in Poser, it does shift slightly. I'd suggest not going onto a different clothing item until you're sure you're happy with the current one. I've had a few cases where I had to go back and do a little more tweaking, and it's much easier to do if the project is still open.

Cheers!

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I would like to get the update but when I go to my account page, it just shows the version (doesnt say which one but I am assuming its version 1.0) that I purchased on 2/15. I want the one that lets you copy over the morphs. Sniffle, sniffle. Lonni :(

Try redownloading it. The purchase date doesn't change, even if there is an update. I do have version 1.1 - I got it thru Rendie when it first came out and I redownloaded it after the announcement. The newer one is about 5MB bigger than the old one.

The one at Daz is version 1.1

If you can push polys around, presumably you can fit the item to a morphed figure rather than a standard one - so does this mean the Tailor becomes redundant? Also, can it cope with transferring clothes to figures with a different number of parts? For instance, Posette to Vicky?

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It's still in my basket, but to Phantast: my understanding is that the item gets fitted to the morphed character, rather than fitting the base and having morphs added, so it might replace the Tailor for fitting an piece of clothing to a specific character but it wouldn't for adding a range of morphs so that you could mix-and-match them across differenct characters.

That would be good enough for me. Would be interested to hear about Posette-Vicky movement.

I just tried to convert a shirt from Posette to V3. The conversion itself was easy, but when I tried to save it, it went into one of it's dreaded endless loops. So.. so far I haven't been able to convert from Posette to V3 :o( No, allthough it's potentially a great program, it seems to me it's not QUITE ready for "Prime Time" yet :o/ I'm seriously considering asking Daz for a refund. Haven't decided yet, but.. I'm close.

With the Posette-Vicky thing, in a lot of cases you would have to regroup it yourself. Add or remove buttocks right out, and change the collars to include/not include parts of the chest.

Ay.. That may be so.. But then the program should come up with an ERROR message instead of just going into an endless loop, shouldn't it?!

I've converted Posette to V3 with no problems. I have had some hangups and freezes, but then I discovered my resources had run low from using a lot of leaky programs at once.

Hmm ... this is interesting. It suggests to me that if you had a non-conforming garment you could use this to create the groups and get it to conform. Yes?

The converter can't regroup. You have to do it in another program.

yeah but then you ARE stuck.. Coz in my case it goes into it's endless loop when it tries to save the obj. :o( And I'm NOT using external Runtimes or anything :o(

I've also had hassle with the endless loops! Bloody annoying. I also have no external Runtimes. I also cannot move anything downwards. So if a piece of clothing is a good fit but up a little, I choose move in the Y axis and no matter which direction I push my mouse, the damn thing goes up! Driving me mad. I have been at it for hours and still haven't converted anything successfully. It hates Kiki - total mess, and I can't even get a simple Vicky to Vicky3 or Vicky3 to Steph3 to work yet. It seems so full of potential but just doesn't actually work! And the tutorials are annoying - the narrater sounds like he is doing it under duress! No enthusiasm and endless pauses (like the prog). Sorry - not at all impressed yet!

is it related to MarkDC cloth converter ? or DAZ too has such kind of tools now ?

It's not just related, Riddokun, it IS MarkDC's clothing converter, which Daz sells now too :o)

oh i see, so it is now property of DAZ ? or is it still available at Markdc's RMP store too ?

Is clothing converter worth it as a standalone application? I do not have taylor or any other purchased poser utilities. Markdc's forum seems pretty bare for as much talk as I've seen about the application. do converted clothing items still take the old textures? I'm still undecided as to purchasing this application yet there seems like there is not another choice if I want to keep the life of some of the outfits and items that I have purchased. have novice users become more atuned to the application now that they have had some time with it?

Also, why do you have to have both figures in order to convert a clothing item? Suppose that in a fit of madness I wanted to put The Freak's tutu on a Troglodyte and I have tutu and trog in hand... but not The Freak. If I have a garment, it would already have information as to the groups and joints, or it wouldn't conform in the first place... and that information is useless for the target cr2, which might even have different groups. If you have to load both figures, why convert when you might as well use the figure that the clothing already fits? Carolly

Carolly: Actually, you don't need to load both the target and destination figures. If you do, then you can use CC's "Auto Scale" feature, which is an automated first step in trying to fit the clothing item. If you don't have the original figure (which, in your example, is the Freak), then you'll just have to fit the tutu to the trog manually. BTW, auto scale never fits the clothing item perfectly, so you always have do manual adjustments. Sometimes it's easier just to skip it.

OK, otherwise it just made no sense to convert between the various Vickis or Mikes... if you have them, why not use them or their lower poly cousins, thus saving time and frustration? but if the original figure isn't needed, a person who avoided toons could take a lovely LaRoo or Koshini dress and move it over to a more realistic model. I will probably wait until a few more bugs are out before buying this, but it may work, afterall. Thanks, Carolly

I just bought the clothes converter from DAZ, but there are no instructions on how to get the security key. Do you have to email MarkDC, or does he automatically send it to you via DAZ?

It should be supplied either in your Daz email purchase reciept or in a readme, I cant remember where i heard that info, but I remember that Rendersoty purchase key from MarkDC, Daz purchase get key and use apon purchase.

Ah, found it! It was in the folder that I created when I unzipped the package. Thanks!