Now I went and looked and their front page has NO adult content. You do NEED to be a member to get inside and see anything risque. Now what is Renderosity's policy? If I link to them in any way, then noone here can ever link to my Poser site? Is that right? I heard something link that but it doesn't make sense tome. Can someone explain what the official policy is "exactly". Much Appreciated, Anton

As I understand it, if you link to that site, or post the URL, or possibly even mention its name, you will get a warning, and after three warnings you will be banned. To refer to it, it's safest to use code words, like "that other site". Someone correct me if I have this wrong.

I heard that too. Thanks for that info What about on my own site though? If my site has a link to it, even though there is NO adult content on their pront page, and it is member restricted, will that prevent my site from being able to be listed in the forums here?

I suspect that if you link to them on your site that your site will also be verboten around here... but I'm not sure how many jumps are needed. Suppose that you linked to my site, and I linked to Phred's site, and Phred linked to Fergie's site... and Fergie liked salacious jokes and one of those sites linked to Renderotica... is 5 jumps far enough? If there are only 6 degrees of separation between total strangers on this planet, it is possible that no site can be linked to since somebody in this sphere of links will be linked to a site with x-rated stuff. The mods will have to clarify. Carolly

LOL Carolly! Okay I'll take the bull by the horns and mention them - RENDEROTICA! Whee!! :] Fish

"That Erotic Poser Site" sounds better than "that other site" if we have to use code words, or is the word "Erotic" also frowned on? Bye Fish, been nice knowing you ;)

Ooh, no, you mustn't even think about them when posting, otherwise the e-bots intercept your post and qbnsie fgazzl pqrstnlf. So be careful. :)

Yes, bye Fishie - maybe you can come back with a new email address and be frognose one day? Sort of like reincarnation. Love esther

ARGH! Now I'm getting hideous flashbacks to a "Dexter's Laboratory" episode where Fishie dies and is flushed out.. except that Dee dee and Dexter are then haunted by the ghost of Fishie.... So Fiskne... Don't die!! L Besides, I think I've found a way to be on "sacred ground".. as soon as you mention the possibility of a post being deleted or a member being banned.. it does NOT happen. So Fishie is safe... I hope...

LOL! Let's see how long before I die! :o) :] Fiskna aka Frognose

rite a PDF document called "Bondage Gear Catalog" and put their URL inside. Then sell it exclusively in RMP. No problemo. M

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard... I'd imagine it has more to do with a nice excuse to cut out competition as it does any so called moral reasons. I think the hypocrisy of selling erotic Marketplace items makes that extremely clear. -_- I notice they never banned anybody for redirecting people to Gay Poser art for the many "where can I get Ulf's shlong?" requests. Must be cuz all those people want to make legitimate "classical nudes" Yeeeeaaahhh riiight. :p Maybe it's time for Regime change :p

Nobody ever said that we can't say "Renderotica" or "Gay Poser Art." How did that rumor start? The issue is with linking to "age restricted sites," which is very vague, but I'm certain that nobody said we can't mention the names of age restricted sites. That would be an idiotic, condescending, and unrealistic rule. Clarification would be appreciated. After all, Renderosity is an age-restricted site.

"What about on my own site though? If my site has a link to it, even though there is NO adult content on their pront page, and it is member restricted, will that prevent my site from being able to be listed in the forums here?" I dontknow - but I did experience this, which may be a similar thing to what you're askingabout, Anton; I did that with a spoof site about women in partyhats. It had a link to an adult site on it's frontpage, but the adult site had, at the time of posting, no nekkidness on its frontpage that was over PG 13. It was up in the VT for two weeks, and the adult site, which you had to click from the spoof site, had changed it's frontpage. Got a warning from GonWaki, who seems very concerned about matters like these, and I could not get that warning rescinded. The three strikes and you're out rule has changed, btw; http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?Form.ShowMessage=1692964 Anton - I'd ask this in the community forum, and ask the mods if they can change at least part of that policy - the way it's being run now is fairly impractical and somewhat ridiculous, as it makes YOU responsible for links several levels down and has no limit on how long you're supposed to be responsible for the URL in question. Fiskn - synes jeg ser overskriftene i Aftonbladet; Svenske bannlyst for si fy-ord pnett! ];-) ~S

OMG, is this getting out of hand or what?! You see I've been using certain program for some time now that is chalk full of adult content, won't mention it's name because it uses nekkid people and men, women, and children's under garments. Guess from now on I better mention it only as the "P" program...

LOL spinnare! :] Fisken the silly bugger

The other day I was using this P program to render, and that other P program to postwork, but then I read the TOS from this R site and it was kinda borderline iffy, so I posted the final image at the other R site and had to go back to my P program to do a PG-13 version of the same render so I could post it at this R site. From now on, I am rendering 2 versions of my images so I can post them on both R sites. :o)~

I'm sure you're not the only one, JV!

Please do not link to Curious Labs from this site...they sell software that contains nude figures and does not carry an ADULTS ONLY warning label. Having our children obtain their sex education from computer software is not nice; they will make naughty pictures and grow up to be perverts. They will then post those pictures at that other R site that has all those freedoms...other kids who lie about their ages to look at nasties will then become corrupt..Oh my gawd, is the 3d world to become an anarchy surrounded by chaos. The bottom line is that only Nekkid Peeple will be used from then on...this site will close down because nobody is buying clothes sets. Wake up people, judgement day is upon us! If you think this all sounds stupid....read the TOS.

If a mod sees this can you see if there is an official policy. I would rather know in advance. Thanks to all for the info. I hope I am allowed to.

Anton, according to the TOS, "Advertising or linking to any publications and/or web sites that are age restricted due to content, and/or pornographic in nature." is not permitted. Now common sense (yeah, I know, we're Renderosity and don't have any but bear with me, I found some scraps of Legume's tinfoil hat lying around and it's protecting my head at the moment) to me would be that if you said 'Hey, I've got this new site a Renderotica, come see' then that would be okay. If otoh you said 'Hey, come to www.somewhere.com/antonsnewsite and see my new site' and it was hosted at 'Rotica then that would probably be against the rules. That's how I'd interpret things anyway. Hope that helps. Kev.

Well the Platinum CLub forum is age restricted because only legal adults can hold creditcards. And you are not allowed to actively charge a card that doesn't belong to you. You might want to re-word the TOS.

The DAZ Platinum Club? That's age restricted, sure, but not due to content which is what el-TOS says.

The PC isn't "age restricted due to content."

So you mean age restricted due to the kind of content..not age restricted due to need because content(products) are present. I see. I stil think of "content" as products. I understand what was meant now by what you said. Thanks for the answer. I appreciate the response.

You're welcome, as always :) (Even though the answer probably wan't what you wanted to hear.)

Well Diane has been around forever. Yes I wish the policy was different.

In the UK (whence I come) members in debate in the "House of Commons" can only refer to the "House of Lords" as "The Other Place". So I guess it isn't only 'rosity..:-)) Cheers, Diolma

Well, I have had a post deleted because I offered to host someones freebie that they where making for the Aliens project on VanishingPoint. The message I got was that I was linking to a commercial site. Even though the ALiens project is a freebie and I was offering to host a freebie. When I remarked to the moderator that other sites like SAMS3D are also commercial sites and links to them are not removed, I was ignored. I contacted a moderator and he said the site I was linking to had commercial items on the front page, and that was against the TOS. I asked where this was stated in the TOS and was never answered. The really strange thing is that Vanishingpoint has been mentioned in the forums hundreds of times, without any problems, but this particular post was not allowed to be reinstated. In the same thread Vanishingpoint was mentioned in two other posts, but they were not deleted. So don't ask me to explain the rules to anyone.

The whole thing can be very confusing

"Due to content" might need to be reworded. There are professional sites and events such as E3 and the Game Developer Conference where anyone under 18 isn't allowed... not because salacious materials are being distributed in the lobby, but because we don't want kiddies running around getting in the way of business discussions. Many of us are professionals, and so it is likely that some of the sites we link to are for adults simply because of that professionalism. Perhaps the TOS could refer to "content which would get an x-rating"? Carolly

I'm sure they'll allow us to refer to "Renderotica" rather than making us say "the other site". Otherwise, it would be as dumb as referring to "MacBeth" as "the Scottish play". But I understand they can't have clickable links to porno sites, since all it would take is one litigious parent looking over their 13-yr-old's shoulder when he clicks on a porno site linked here, and then all hell could break lose.

I insist that you refer to MacBeth as "the play from the northern part of that small island that is of the coast of that large continent that is linked to that other continent, and is north of the other one". I think using the word "Scottish" would be politically incorrect and favours one minority ethnic group over another, as well as entrenching the role of the northern hemisphere as the cultural leader in world writing and the arts.

I seem to recall that an admin stated that it's okay to mention Renderotica but you can't write it out as if it's a URL. So if you write the name of the place and add the .com to the end of the name, that's "linking", even if it's not a link and people have to cut and paste. So, please, nobody put the URL ending on the name of the site. If you do, innocent bystanders might be harmed. bonni

So then: Writing "Mynaughtysite" in a thread is OK, but writing "www.Mynaughtysite.com" is verboten, even though anyone can probably work out the jump. This will get like those spam-proof email addresses such as "Myname@aol_deletethis_.com". We can safely write "www.Mynaughtysite_deletethis_.com" because it's not a valid URL?

Phantast, did you actually test mynaughtysite(dot)com? You're right, it is verboten. :)

No I didn't - you mean there IS such a site? Ack! However, I DID put it in quotes 8)

Oh, this is a game my husband and I play. He'll make up some silly name like that (maybe, oh, nakedpolicemen or nakedcheerleaders) and then say, "I'll bet that's a domain." And then we check to see. Yes, we're both geeks. And yes, we find this amusing. :-) (What do you mean we need a life, this IS our life! LOL!) bonni

LOL I've tried something similar.. Me and a friend wanted to uy a domain at some point.. and we neede it to be a "funny" one.. but all the funny ones we could think of WAS taken G (they're not as funny in english as in danish but some of them would probably have been very much against the TOS here L)

A life? Cool! Where can I download one of those?!

Renderotica's terms of service are, in summary:- - No pictures of children. - No pictures of children or creatures resembling children (including imaginary creatures such as fairies) under 18 years of age, even in non-erotic situations. - As a rule of thumb, treat the lower age limit as 20. - Pictures that include a text specifying or implying that at least one of the characters is under 18 years of age. - Pictures that include props and scenery implying ditto. This includes descriptions of "teen" anything, high school desks and classrooms and other words and situations implying that one or more of the participants is under 18. - No bestiality. - No flamage and similar. - No warez. No offering or asking for warez.

You mean to tell me that a naked poser image of Darkwhispers "Sara" with wings would not be allowed?

Again, please can we have a ruling? If this happens:- I like scuba diving. I put on my link a link to Mr.Qwerty's site because he has a few pages about rebreathers (= a sort of scuba gear). Unknown to me, one of these is true:- (1) He also has a link to a sexy image site. (2) He also has a link to someone who has a link to a sexy image site. (3) Ditto but 3 steps needed to reach the porn. (4) Ditto but 4 steps needed to reach the porn. (5) Ditto ... etc. Would it be it allowed for any Renderosity user to link to my site? (a) If the sexy stuff, when reached, proves to be all within Renderotica's terms of service? (b) if not?

Hehe I get an urge to render the Freak in diapers and with a nookie.. and see if that is within the TOS ;o)