I ve been working with Bryce for over 6 weeks now and I love it. I often have a look on the different galleries and I have to say that I also like a lot the work produced in Vue. Some how it looks more realistic and warm. What are the major differences between Bryce and Vue 4?.

At the moment I work with Bryce just for fun but I would like to start my own business. What is the best programm to use when it comes to producing landscapes and nature?

Hope you can give me some advise on this.

Thanks

I would certainly recommend Vue - I use both as they excel in different areas

How can you possible say that in the Bryce forum??????? Bryce rocks, you just have to know how to use it. I tried the Vue demo, and immediately ordered the upgrade to Bryce 5 and have never regretted it.

An interesting question, and as I am not a Vue user, I wouldn't presume to answer, but I'm also wondering whether I should branch out. And how much would Vue cost to get anyway?

chohole: I said it because it's my honest opinion :-) I love Bryce - always have and always will but Vue has its highs too! On saying that, I suspect I'd get a worse tirade in the Vue forum if I'd said the same :

LUKE: Is Vue stronger?

YODA: No...no...no. Quicker, easier, more seductive.

LUKE: But how am I to know the good side from the bad?

YODA: You will know. When you are calm, at peace. Passive. A Brycer uses Bryce for knowledge and defense, never for attack.

LUKE: But tell me why I can't...

YODA: (interrupting) No, no, there is no why. Nothing more will I teach you today. Clear your mind of questions and remember, Bryce will be with you always. Mmm. Mmmmmm.
Woah! Sorry, still trying to get through 50lbs of chocolate eggs and I think it's having an effect on me.

Too funny!! Wanna share some chocolate??

NO! It's mine. MINE I tell you!

OK then....my a$$ is big enough already!

As much as I hate to say it, but for someone just starting out, and someone who want's to take it beyond a hobyy, I'd go with Vue at the minimum. Bryce software doesn't seem to have any future as far as upgrades and new versions. I can only see Vue continually improving it's software. As you can see from their gallery, in the right hands it can produce as good a work as Bryce, if not better. It also supports native imports of Poser scene files which is an awesome feature. Of course you should evaluate as many trial versions of ALL the graphics programs to see what you feel most comfortable with too. Whatever software you choose, you'll need to learn postwork techniques. Almost always, when you see some of the elite's work (hobbit, Rochr, etc) here at renderosity, it invovles a modest to vast amount of postwork. I have Vue, but have yet taken the leap. I'm too busy trying to learn some modeling stuff in Xfrog and Amapi. Good luck with your adventure!

Why not buy both - only 50$ extra for Bryce 5. I'm one of those spoiled Brycers unable to learn something more advanced :-); in my opinion Vue has a better graphic engine but the interface is not as convenient/intuitive/fast as B's... I watched the Vue ad animation and loved the wind sensitive trees and their tree lab is also great so Vue is getting better and better while Bryce is slowly "sinking". (no updates in many years :-()

LOL @drawbridgep I just saw Vue once and it was not so user friendly (according to me)

How will Bryce 6 be compared to Vue? Will it be at the same level? Is there already a beta versions available? I also know that for the really 3d modelling I will need to learn 3D Studio Max or maybe Maya. What about Cinema 4D is this any good?

Bryce 6? Haha, thats a long story...dont hold your breath for that cause it may never happen, or more likely, it will be years before we seen any new version to Bryce. Dont know Cinema 4d all that well...have heard it is an excellent tool. I use both Max and Maya, and even though I like Max more its hard to give too many faults to Maya.

From what I've seen, VuePro looks a nice peice of software (assuming they've solved all the opengl probs that have plagued Vue on and off for a while) and is a lot better than normal Vue (though it costs more). Bryce on the other hand sells for $80US and in my opinion is the best thing going for the price. As for the poser import thing that Vue has - while it may sound really good (and in a lot of cases I'm sure it is pretty handy), I've heard quite a few people swearing "at" it more than "by" it, so be warned that things can go FUBARed from time to time. For a program with a definite future development plan, Vue wins over Bryce on that at the moment. I've only ever heard good things about C4D, both in the modelling and scene creation. There's my 2.5 post inflationary cents ;)

Vue- good for palm trees
Bryce- good for Mirror balls and clear lakes
that's all ya need to know..right?..;)
I have Vue 2, but it won't run on Win 2k..dagnabbit..;)
It's like any tool, you could have both, or one or 'tother..;) just depends on how much work you want to put into it. Amazing things have been done in both, so it's whatever you want to try first..

In my opinion, Vue4 is better for landscapes than Bryce5 is. The Vue skies, realism, atmosphere, and trees are far superior. For indoor scenes and close-up work, I think Bryce is better. If you're really into landscapes I'd go with Vue, but I'd try the demo first before buying.

My advice: go through the Bryce galleries, paying close attention to some of the masters' works. Then do the same with the Vue galleries. Does the range of work possible with Bryce look like it will accomplish everything you would like to do? Does the range of work possible with Vue look like it will accomplish everything you would like to do? Give all these things as much serious scrutiny as you can. Then buy Bryce. (Hey, I may be a bit prejudiced, but Vue STILL looks FUZZY to me.) John

if you can afford bryce AND vue - go for both as they both have different strong points. it is something i would like to do myself. :) c4d rocks. much steeper learning curve than bryce but worth it - definitely. its power and features are of a standard that compete with more expensive packages. i'm still first and foremost a brycer tho - just love playing around with the materials lab and dte. :)

like a fool, I printed out the tutorials and manual for C4D (v6), and it came to 1100 pages..now if I could just find my Poser and Bryce manuals (gotta stop moving one of these days..;)

I have Bryce, Vue4 Pro, Carrara, and Cinema4D. What program do I like the best? Bryce. It's also the program I know the best, but having options is good. Carrara is a really nice program - have you checked it out? I am spending a lot of time playing/learning this program. What program you end up with also depends on the type of output you want. If only stills, then Bryce. If animation is your goal, the go for Vue4 Pro (skip Vue4). If you want to make your own models, then really look at Carrara or Cinema4D. Peggy

But who's got the most active forum, eh?

When faced with the choice myself, buy vue or bryce, I chose vue 4 because of the mover plugin. See, I use poser for animation, so being able to import animated figures into vue is a very big feature to me. I've worked with bryce, and I know that importing poser figures into bryce is no picnic either, and you can forget about animated figures... after getting used to the differences in the interfaces, I found that vue can do just about everything bryce can do, and where I couldn't make any sense at all out of the deep texture editor, I've found that vue's texture editor is very intuitive. (rather similar to the old Ray Dream Studio materials). Bottom line: Where bryce is definitely a unique software experience (due in part to Kai Krause's wonderful interface), and of course, bryce was there when there was nothing else (no vue, worldbuilder, mojoworld, etc) It would seem that it's at an evolutionary dead end. Vue on the other hand , seems to be just hitting it's stride, I've a good feeling that the next few revolutions are going to bring great things. And e-on appears to know that bryce is in limbo, they've say that vue will open a bryce scene with no problems or prep work. I haven't tried it myself, but if bryce truly is only $80.00, I'm sure I'll be trying it soon....

A friend of mine told me that Bryce 6 is in development but only for the Windows users. Is this true? Thank you all for your comments!! I will keep on working with Bryce for still lives and started working with Vue 4 for landscaping. Cinema 4D for 3D-design. Postwork indeed is the key to create great designs

Brainmuffin, where did you hear that Vue would open a Bryce file? I didn't think that was possible (but hope it will in the future). It will import a Poser file. As a side note, Carrara will also open Poser files if you have the new Transporter. Works great! Artmatic Voyager is sorta a Bryce 6. It is only for Macs, so as far as I am concerned, it don't exsist.

This alone answers much of what you are saking! Trying to import a large Poser character, like DAZ's Mil People, is much more difficult in Bryce. Once they're into either application editing also becomes a huge issue for Brycer's. Vue makes a nice text and icon based lists of all the objects in a scene, including those imported in with figure. Bryce has nothing like this, so you need to move the camera arouns a bit to finally select something very small. Bryce is less expensive, but I say Vue is more serious.