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This figure looks EXACTLY like all the others released by lululee. It's deplorable, actually. No human female looks even remotely like that, and frankly it's an insult to those of the gender it's supposed to represent. This isn't art. This is pornography, pure and simple. I'm shocked that people accept this as "good".

well, this is my view i think she's cute. pay no mind to agentky, i think he's/she's very grumpy. Shame on you for degrading people's work like that. If that person has an artist vision let them create it, they work hard on their projects, so who's right for you to say. NO offense agent you don't know pornography if it hit you in the head with a mack truck :) good luck and keep up the good work lululee. Have a nice day agentky. I hope you have a good day :) Seraphira

I think it looks great! Some people do have body shapes like that and I think you have done a fabulous job on the morphs lululee ;o) It's not porn either... it's an advertisement for the character!

Oh lululee....this character is beautiful! Excelent work :) No porn seen here....don't listen to stupidity. Can't wait to see your next beauty:) fairy hugs Dee Dee

I search everywhere on these images but can't find the porno ;) lululee don't let some stupid opinion discourage you hun. You do wonderful work and most of us and your customers know that. So go on making your art yes I call it art hug Ang

Thanks so much to everyone for your support and encouragement. I worked really hard to create Tanya. All of us artists put so much into our products. People who don't create them have no idea how much goes into them. I am glad that people I respect see her beauty. Good luck to everyone who is launching new products.

lululee, Tanya is a very beautiful product. I have a number of your products and have found them to be excellant!! Tanya will be joining my wishlist :-) Hey AgentKy007, For being such a pious soul,I just can't understand why you would click on a product link titled "Coming Very Soon Tanya Tease Lingere Model by lululee". You also said " This figure looks EXACTLY like all the others released by lululee." which tells me you've looked at ALL of them. You really are making me wonder who it is who's seeing with a pornographic eye. You also said "No human female looks even remotely like that,....." Sorry to pop your bubble but,my lady does & no silicone either.

I searched, too, and couldn't find the porn, dammit! ;-) Bugger! She's very cute, lululee :-) I personally think 3D is a wonderful medium where we can give our characters the proportions the good Lord didn't find necessary to give us in real life. All my females are well-endowed also, but that's largely because I have scant more than mosquito bites in real life. Band-aid bikini! I have friends who look like that naturally, too, though I hate them for it evil grin Good thing AgentKY doesn't rule the world, or every large-chested woman would considered pornographic. rolls eyes GG, the flat President of BBFAV (Big Boobs for all Vickis)

I don't intend this to degrade into a flame, but the fact Agent stated his/her opinion doesn't mean he/she is stupid. AgentKy007 has a point. This may not be the forum to express the point in, but it's a good point nonetheless. Not every woman is a graduate of the Lollo Ferrari School of bodysculpting, and not every woman looks like a hellacious harpy. However, far be it from me to stop anyone catering to popular taste, however cheap I may find it on my own personal level. Oh, there's a typo in the ad - bodustocking. TTFN ~S

I like this model idealized or not. Actually it is difficult to create a large busted female model with much reality. I was impressed that "the girls" have a realistic lay instead of the big cut in half water melon thing. By the by I know a number of buxom lasses who "look remotely like" Tanya maybe not quite as perfect (gravity's awful cruel past 25) but isn't that one of the reasons we create?

Well, I happen to think she's lovely. If I wanted true realism, I'd go take photographs :)

First off, it's good that at least someone (Spinner) saw my point. There are tons of figures exactly like this on the marketplace. Why? Gee, I wonder. But yes, they do sell, I won't debate that. The fact is, though, they shouldn't be the top sellers. Everyone knows exactly what these characters are most likely used for. The figure itself isn't even remotely realistic, and anyone who claims differently is probably insane, or just lying. No one can possibly have hips that large, a waist that small, and breasts that large all in one body. The figure is a size -2 waist, 8 hip, and her bra size is something someone would have to send away on special order to get a single one of. Not to mention these massive breasts of hers defy gravity. Did I also mention that high heels like that would require a broken ankle to wear? They must come with a sledgehammer, just like in that movie Misery. Now that's all well and good though. There are so many of these, and clones of these, and so on and so forth, that I can't even begin to comment. What bothered me so much about these figures is that the creator is female herself. I am stunned that she would not only encourage but actually promote the objectification of women in such a manner. And who in gods name told everyone that women need large breasts to be attractive? That is total crap, and completely untrue. In fact, breasts as large as these actually detract from the overall looks of the figure. Not to mention, IF she could even stand up, she'd have a broken spine after a day. I'm well aware of how much time and effort can be put into Poser products. Perhaps more time could be devoted to creating realistic and attractive figures, instead of barbie doll grotesqueries.

Lululee, don't pay any attention to these jokers. Tanya looks great! Keep up the great work!

I am a big fan of Miss Lululee and just thought I'd throw in a word or two.

First of all AgentKY007 (I hope that's a reference to your name and not a geographical location. I'd hate to think we lived in the same state.) if you had bothered to do a little research, you would find that Lululee's characters are based on the works of others. Wyrmmaster and William the Bloody are two of her favorites. Respected members of this community. Have you attacked them with your narrow minded comments yet?

Secondly THIS IS ART. anyone seeing pornography here obliviously is looking for it. Had a date lately? If you want realism, check out your local bar at closing time.
Finally, If you feel so strongly about this, get off your lazy @ss and create a "realistic character" of your own. There are plenty available already but I'm sure we would all love to see YOUR work. The energy you've used here to attack a very creative lady would be better suited to that end.

Lululee, don't change a thing about your work and please don't stop giving us the benefit of your art.

PS I loved "The Fifth Element too. :-)

I can say only one thing, whoever considers such art work as pornography should step out of this community, I have seen and know what pornography exactly looks like, Lululee's work I don't consider it as pornography at all, whoever still thinks it that way than sorry I can't help that person. I'm not defending anybody but this is the reality people don't create such work don't know how hard it is, I mysel sometimes create simple 3D object in Max5 and I know how hard it is and sometimes takes me days to finish it, well, to make it shorter Lululee thanks for your efforts and your creations please keep it up. Wish you all happy rendering.

While I'm not a big fan of large busted poser models ( my tastes run smaller ). I find absolutely nothing wrong with this model being advertised OR made by a woman. As a woman myself, I would like to make a couple of points here.. one about the product itself, and one about the comments regarding the model and women in general. First... The face morph on this product is awesome. I find her very appealing and have seen women in real life who's features are similar to hers as far as the soulful eyes and pouty lips are conerned. As for the hips, I believe it's the pose Lululee has her in that accents the hips and makes them appear larger than I feel they really are. Overall, It's a very well done morph/character set and since the set comes with so much lace and stockings, it's my opinion that the best way to demonstrate both is to have the character wearing them. Just as Lululee as portrayed in this image. I don't find that to be pornography nor in bad taste. It's just good business sense. Speaking of which, the whole point of making products to sell, is to MAKE money.. or did I miss something in business 101? And I think ( unless you prove me wrong ) that keeping with the current trends is what making money is all about in the first place. It's not Lululee's fault that sex sells ( online as well as in real life ) nor is it her fault that's whats popular right now. why is it such a crime for her to want to capitalize on it like every other business person in the marketplace? As far as the comments regarding what a REAL woman should look like? Have you ever seen a picture of Mae west? Obviously not or you'd know theres at least ONE person who DOES have large hips and breasts with the tiniest friggin waist I've ever seen. One last comment here. Are YOU a big breasted woman? Do YOU know what it's like to have big breasts? Do YOU wear heels that high? Are you even a WOMAN? Then how can you conceivably attempt to project your personal views about whether or not a woman can wear heels that high or have large breasts without having a broken back as you put it. For one, Your personal opinions concerning womens anatomy, have nothing to do with whether or not this character is a good marketplace product. And let me tell you, as a large breasted woman myself, I resent the comments made that we are unattractive and can't stand up because of our size. I'll have you know, I have had many men in my day who LOVE big breasted woman. LOL... they must.. too many woman get implants to keep you guys happy..:)But as far as having problems with MY anatomy? NOT on your life! I do just fine thank you:) and heels? I've been known in my time to wear up to an 8 inch heel without breaking an ankle. Sooooo... please... if you must comment, keep to the subject..try not to offend us large women.. and above all.. do us a favor.. and don't try to act like your an expert on womans anatomy or what we can and cannot do or what we like and dont like. Just give a review of the pending product.. and leave it alone. Have a nice day Lynn ( Buxom and beautiful )

Why is it when someone has a comment that isn't full of sugar, it seems people come down on them like a ton of bricks... ? I have nothing against LuLuLee's work, i think she is a talented soul and has always been nice to me.... So what i am saying is not a comment about her product. I'm just saying everyone is entitled to express their opinion.. Also... before i go. ;)... I am female, and i don't find Tanya even remotely offensive, 'she' is a collection of polygons, a fantasy 'female' character, i doubt that LuLuLee's aim was to make a realistic representation of today's modern woman. Right, now that was a bit to much typing, seeing as i just woke up... must have a cup of tea!!! Good Luck with your product LLL :) -SimderZ- xXx

gildedgecko: "Good thing AgentKY doesn't rule the world, or every large-chested woman would considered pornographic." Woo-hoo! I'm pornographic! ;-P Just chiming in for the large-breasted women here. I'm a DD, and when I was nursing my daughter I was an H, thank you very much. Yes, we do look like that sometimes. And I wish I had that tiny waist. Simderella: "everyone is entitled to express their opinion" Yep, but it's not what you say, it's how you say it. i.e. Play Nice. lululee, just remember: There's no such thing as bad publicity! :-) I hope you sell a million of 'em! -Heidi

Fandancer, I am a 44 double D, I think I know what it feels like to be large-breasted. My back and shoulders get pretty sore sometimes if I don't have some good support for the girls ;-) As I said - if LL can make money off this, fine, but one of Agent's arguments were that they all look the same. And they do. It's not as if Lululee is going to lose sales over any one of us expressing what they think of her products, ne ? But in creating stuff for commercial consumption, you're more visible to critiques, be it good or bad, and what I do find detrimental in threads like these, is that despite the fact not everyone is a good communicator, some good input can be gleaned nonetheless in order to look at the product with new eyes, a new angle, which could be used to improve. I find the sugarings in threads like these to be counterproductive to the production of what so many like to call art. If it's art, it can always be improved. shrug I also know how much time stuff like this can take, and I know full well that this is a Wyrmmaster derivative; I've been around a lot longer than the majority in this thread. As for this -being- art; This is a softcore vanilla piece of cheesecake. Some call it art, some don't. I won't touch THAT debate with a bargepole - we've all been there, and I belong in the camp that doesnt equate a negative comment about nudity as narrowminded - I find it more of an issue that anything attacking something with nudity in it automatically gets -called- narrowminded. So someone doesnt like LL's product. Big frelling deal. ~S

spinner, as I said in my reply before.. I was not offended by the fact that agent doesn't like lululees product or the fact that he thinks it's too much like everyone elses. What I was offended by was the fact that he felt it necessary to compare a computor generated model of a female with real world females... and presumed to state his opinions of what he considered attractive. Had he kept his comments to things such as " This character is too much like all the other vicki models in the store" or " The product is nice,but you dont need to display her practically nude to make a sale" ( my words, not his )..then I most likely would not have said anything. Everyone has thier opinions, and likes and dislikes..The point I was trying to make is.. Just keep on the topic and leave the personal comments out of it. Nothing more.and to trash a merchant like that because you dont like one of thier products .. or all of them for that matter is rude and inconsiderate. I don't like all the sugar and spice posts either, but I don't care for the bashing and rude ones either. If you dont' like thier products, don't buy.

First of all I would like to point out that I have absolutely no personal vendettas against anyone. I am merely trying to make a point, which some people have recieved well.

FanDancer -

"Speaking of which, the whole point of making products to sell, is to MAKE money.. or did I miss something in business 101? And I think ( unless you prove me wrong ) that keeping with the current trends is what making money is all about in the first place. It's not Lululee's fault that sex sells ( online as well as in real life ) nor is it her fault that's whats popular right now. why is it such a crime for her to want to capitalize on it like every other business person in the marketplace?"

-- There are plenty of other products to produce and sell. What is popular, especially in this instance, should not always be what is mass produced. There's also a section of Business called ethics.

"As far as the comments regarding what a REAL woman should look like? Have you ever seen a picture of Mae west? Obviously not or you'd know theres at least ONE person who DOES have large hips and breasts with the tiniest friggin waist I've ever seen."

-- Yes, I have. And she wore a girdle and bustier, by the way.

"And let me tell you, as a large breasted woman myself, I resent the comments made that we are unattractive and can't stand up because of our size. I'll have you know, I have had many men in my day who LOVE big breasted woman. LOL... they must.. too many woman get implants to keep you guys happy..:)But as far as having problems with MY anatomy? NOT on your life! I do just fine thank you:) and heels? I've been known in my time to wear up to an 8 inch heel without breaking an ankle."

-- Well apparently you took what I said very personally. You will have to note that I did not say that women with large breasts are unnattractive. I said that this particular figure was made unnattractive by her embelished proportions. As far as women getting implants to keep men happy? Something is seriously wrong with that picture. Nobody should ever need to get implants. Breasts are breasts. They don't need to be large to be breasts. Large or small doesn't matter. Whether or not they're natural does.

I also realize that this figure was not intended to be realistic. That is the exact problem I have with it. I find it completely unfathomable that other women actually promote an impossible body image. It isn't attractive, it's just unrealistic, and it continues the trend of the objectification of women which seems to be getting much worse lately.

smirks.....business and ethics in the same sentance.....lmao....maybe in a perfect world, and also maybe in a perfect world, plastic surgeons might go out of business, but i don't really see it happening, particularly as its a major growth sector, especially in the US. something to think about maybe....art reflecting life?