I went ahead and attached it to his hip and played with the transmap a bit, saved as a separate prop. I started working on Princess today just finished the facial morphs after 6 hours! 2 of those hours were playing with head magnets to get the roundness of the head and the raised portions of the temples, brows,and eyesocket edges. Now I know what I should have done with PinHead before mapping out the pins and propping it. But, I never had intended for this to go this far! I just thought the character I had created looked enough like PinHead that I'd play a bit. Next thing I know I'm hooked on these. Geez, I haven't even finished the RiffRaff yet or started on Magenta! Oh well, so goes the life of a obsessive compulsive. Thanks again for all your comments I appreciate them!