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Subject: WIPs..are either of these worth continuing with?


chohole ( ) posted Fri, 30 April 2004 at 6:15 AM Ā· edited Thu, 26 December 2024 at 8:13 PM

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Got so far, and now I just don't know if they are any good or not. I guess I have been looking at them for too long. Any suggestions at all (well within the tos anyway) will be appreciated.

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chohole ( ) posted Fri, 30 April 2004 at 6:15 AM

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And the 2nd one

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ddruckenmiller ( ) posted Fri, 30 April 2004 at 6:37 AM

Both have great possibilities. (Although you'll have to deal with the smell of wet horse more on the second.)


pogmahone ( ) posted Fri, 30 April 2004 at 7:05 AM

Both are working out really well. Great feeling of distance in the first one. I'da thought the horses would be different colours, and the harness/bridles would be a lot darker. From my childhood memories (I was barought up way out in the country!) working harnesses and bridles were mostly very very dark. Your muddy road textures are always great - but something doesn't seem quite right about the water puddles in the second picture. At the moment they look a bit more like snow. How would it be if you used flat planes with a reflective water texture on for the puddles?


tjohn ( ) posted Fri, 30 April 2004 at 7:07 AM

These are terrific, IMHO. Maybe a little less sky and a little more ground in the first one (just a little).

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draculaz ( ) posted Fri, 30 April 2004 at 8:25 AM

the first one's the best, imo, but the houses are too white. the second one is a bit meh, mostly because of the lack of details (potted plants, things that fill the scene). awesome detail regardless :)


pakled ( ) posted Fri, 30 April 2004 at 9:22 AM

lookin' good..I'd 'dirty up' the house texture slightly (coupla buckets of 'builder beige'..;) to match the overall feel..but they look fine to me..

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johnyf ( ) posted Fri, 30 April 2004 at 12:00 PM

Looks good to me, the only other thing is the houses, especially those going up the hill, they should each be on the level, if you lived in one at the moment you would be walking up and down just going to the kitchen! LOL. Look forward to seeing it progress!


Blog ( ) posted Fri, 30 April 2004 at 2:15 PM

If I had to choose one for you to continue with I would pick the first. As for improvements first of all is the issue with the sky, at the moment it looks like the sky is just too large; the sky and background terrain covers 2/3 of the image before you get to the detail part. I have two suggestions for fixing this, either draw in a really fantastic sky in Photoshop or lower your POV closer to the ground so that the trees can help make up some of the difference. Speaking of the trees they look a bit too uniform now, I would make the size differences between trees more dramatic, the ones behind the horses in particular. The sense of depth is really well done though, I like how you can see other towns and structures in the background, maybe a better sky could help draw attention to these? Anyway good luck, post updates soon!


diolma ( ) posted Fri, 30 April 2004 at 4:18 PM

I like the 1st one best, (personally I don't find the "big sky" a problem, but who am I to judge), except for the bottom-right house, which I think stands out too much. Possibly a "ray of sunshine" hilighting the coach? The 2nd one - it took me quite a while to work out why it didn't quite work for me. (I'm still learning composition myself; having to look at someone else's work and wonder is doing me the world of good.. :-)) ) The thoughts that came to me were: - The (main) coach and horses (the focal point) are leading out of the scene. The eye goes to the edge, (to see where they are going) and gets lost. Possibly turn them 180 degrees? - the poses of the heads of each pair of the horses are (IMHO) too similar. Horses just don't do that (except in circuses etc. where they've been trained to). At least one of them should have head raised (even if it IS raining).. - and I'm not sure about having both figures entering the building on the left. One in, and one out, maybe? Or possibly one entering that building and one leaving the building on the right? "Those who can, do. Those who can't, criticize" (count me among the latter) :-)) Feel free, by all means, to criticise my criticism - I can only learn from it:-)) Cheers, Diolma



RodsArt ( ) posted Fri, 30 April 2004 at 5:45 PM

Both of these look great! Reminds me of Currier & Ives. If you're getting tired of them...put'm in a WIP folder and come back to them later. You could also try something different by honing your postwork skills. browse through hobbits gallery for inspiration. Nice work!

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TheBryster ( ) posted Fri, 30 April 2004 at 7:45 PM
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I like #2 but the coach and horses are too small imo. And they should perhaps be facing up the hill.........0.02p

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chohole ( ) posted Sat, 01 May 2004 at 9:18 AM

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Worked on the first one a bit more. I am having to do this with 3 seperate layers, otherwise my pc can't cope, so instead of altering the camera angle I have cropped the sky, which I had intended to do anyway. Added some smoke, tried to simulate dust kicked up by the horses, and dirtied my house texture up some.

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to developĀ  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."



pakled ( ) posted Sat, 01 May 2004 at 10:23 AM

looks great..

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


Blog ( ) posted Sat, 01 May 2004 at 10:39 AM

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I have to admit, I really love your composition here so I just couldn't resist playing with it a bit on my own, I hope you don't mind, I'll just delete this post if you are opposed.


chohole ( ) posted Sat, 01 May 2004 at 11:21 AM

No not opposed at all. To quote an expression I used to hate when working...I know where you're coming from. If I can duplicate anything similar is another matter entirely. Hard to do it in bryce, that's for certain. I have already disabled the sun and am using Zenith.

The greatest part of wisdom is learning to developĀ  the ineffable genius of extracting the "neither here nor there" out of any situation...."



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