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Subject: A question about emulsions ...


MGD ( ) posted Sat, 01 May 2004 at 4:31 PM · edited Wed, 27 November 2024 at 9:07 PM

I tend to stick with Kodak film. .. but now I need some opinions and suggestions ... About 4-5 years ago, I used VPS 135, 120, or 220; but those emulsions are no longer available. I want to continue to shoot Color negative emulsions -- I don't want to deal with slides at this time. For that matter, I don't want to deal with the 1,000 to 1,500 slides that I have as a result of trying to hold down my processing costs in the 1960's and early 1970's. Looking at the Kodak web site, I see ... *** E-Family (EKTACHROME) E100G, E100GX, E100VX, and E200) *** Professional Ultra Color 100 or 400 *** KODAK PROFESSIONAL PORTRA Films 160NC, 400NC, 160VC, 400VC, 800, and 100T The web site seems to say that each of these is the is the best film ever made -- in that case, why do they have more than one emulsion for sale? BTW, they don't make it easy to find out which emulsion and sizes are available. MGD


Tedz ( ) posted Sun, 02 May 2004 at 12:10 AM

ooops...I am here by mistake....I thought You needed advice for Roof Paint....that sort of Emulsion.....byyyyyyyye!


MGD ( ) posted Sun, 02 May 2004 at 12:34 AM

Aaaawww ... you don't have to leave ... Won't you have a cup of coffee ... or would you prefer tea? MGD


Tedz ( ) posted Sun, 02 May 2004 at 1:01 AM

Earl Grey.....with a spoon of Honey?....a slice of Lemon? A Naffy Bun?


MGD ( ) posted Sun, 02 May 2004 at 2:02 AM

Earl Grey ... with a spoon of Honey? Yes, those I have. > ... a slice of Lemon? Sure -- but I don't always have lemons in the fridge. > A Naffy Bun? ? BTW, bring hiking boots, camera(s), and also be ready to see NYC. MGD


Identguy ( ) posted Sun, 02 May 2004 at 11:02 AM

I use mostly 160 nc at work in the 135 format. i am upset that they discontinued the vps series. excellent colour renditions, but the nc is very good. Fuji professional 160 is also very good. has great mid tones and i like the contrast in it. it has a deeper magenta tint to the film base. Konica has made some ground on their proffessional series but I still find the colours have a high separation. sometimes that can be good, but it makes for an image that can seem harsh at times. Give the NC and the Fuji a try. I prefer those two. shoot similar images with both films so you can see for yourself, which film suites the different subjects. I always prefer to do my own comparisons rather than rely on the companies PR. Kodak used to send a lot of their trial films to my lab for testing in the field so I'm used to dealing with their product more than others. Hope my ramblings helped


Misha883 ( ) posted Sun, 02 May 2004 at 6:34 PM

You will get lots of religeous arguments here about the merits of slides vs negatives. All of them are true. That being said, I use color negative materials. I believe they are more forgiving in difficult lighting situations, and are available over a wide speed range at neighborhood Jiffy-Marts. If indeed color saturation is not as good as some slide films, one can always cheat and crank it up in Photoshop. If indeed negatives are grainier, my end product goes to a computer screen so the point is usually moot. All color is illusion...


Wolfsnap ( ) posted Sun, 02 May 2004 at 9:31 PM

Depends on what and why you're shooting. If I were shooting, say, bridal portraits - hands down a neg film like VPS...if shooting for publication - transparencies are the way to go. Not that this has anything to do with the topic - but I've had a few! Anyway - from what i've read (admittedly from kodak), the Portra films are a "new and improved" VPS...?


MGD ( ) posted Sun, 02 May 2004 at 9:57 PM

@Misha883 - > religeous arguments I like that. @Wolfsnap - > Portra films are a "new and improved" VPS...? If so, why did they change the name? MGD


Wolfsnap ( ) posted Sun, 02 May 2004 at 10:57 PM

LOL - Because you can't have 'NEW" and "IMPROVED" at the same time. If it's "NEW" - than how can it be an "IMPROVED" product. And if it's 'IMPROVED", it must be an older product - thus it cannot be 'NEW" (OK - Old joke) An old story - forgive me if I get my numbers wrong: While I was working at the local camera store - Polaroid stopped producing Polaroid type 664 (again - not sure of the number - this was 15 years ago or so) - and replaced it with Polapan 100. We had a load of customers who used the 664 - and were hesitant to go to the Polapan 100 - to the point that we contacted Polaroid, and they said that the Polapan 100 was the identical emulsion that the 664 was - just new packaging. After showing the customers the sheet from Polaroid - most of them accepted it....with the exception of one. he came in about closing time to pick up his order of 664 - but when he saw Polapan 100, he went into a Hallelujah Conniption. he found out that there was a couple of boxes of 664 in out Greensboro store (20 miles away) - and he said to me (verbatim - "This is what you're going to do - you're going to go to Greensboro and pick up those boxes and deliver them to my studio or my business here is though!" To which I said, "Well, it was nice doing business with you while it lasted - you gotta do what you gotta do....I'm not a delivery man!" Oh - it gets better! After that, he went ahead and took the Polapan - but came back the next day (after shooting half the box) with a couple of rent-a-cops wanting his 664, threatening to sue because he was given "the wrong thing" - and wanting his "money" back for the Polapan (He had charged it to his account AFTER the initial argument) - but he had shot half the box! Now, personally - I love Rent-A Cops - because they sat there and listened to the entire scenario, and wound up threatening to take HIM in! (For fraudulent something-or-nother....maybe just for being a whiner)


AntoniaTiger ( ) posted Mon, 03 May 2004 at 5:23 PM

Looking back at the start of the thread... Ektachrome is the Kodak reversal film, E6 process that any pro lab can handle (and other companies use E6 process for their slide films, just as C41 is the chemistry for colour negatives).


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