Love the FACE morphs.Michael is my FIRST purchase from Zygote(Nice People on the phone :)BUT,Michaels Body Stinks BIG TIME.He NEEDS DESPARETELY FULL BODY MUSCLE MORPHS(Chest,Back,Neck,Arms,Legs,Butt,etc)for that BodyBuilder/PowerLifter/Superhero look.I hope Zygote Makes them for his update.I am kind of dissapointed with my first Zygote purchase.

I'm very glad I haven't purchased Michael yet. I've heard his body and genitals are a nightmare, and I'd buy Vicky if she had an anatomically correct body. I may yet buy Michael to test his head out on the P4 male body, though. Or I might just get the Proto Morph man instead. He has good face morphs AND body morphs. And he costs half as much as Michael.

Actually I like his body but it isn't for every use. Like you said it doesn't have the full body, pumped to the max superhero look ... Thing is that that niche is alrealy fairly well filled but you can always try the Bobby figure that has Michaels head and the standard P4 figure for the body to get the pumped to the max person you want. Don't have any problem with the body or the genitals. Don't need bits on Vickie either and a texture map would work for most things. I mean the p4 woman doesn't have bits either but there are plenty of morphs all about to make her work for you. Protomorph man is cool but even the person that made him said he isn't as versitile as Michael is ... Anyway .. Later

Once I had fun with Michael's almost photo realistic head, I found that most other P4 characters were cartoons by comparison. Given the fact that I have stocked up on P4 clothes for both male and female, I feel like I have a nice collection of LP's in a CD world. The Bobby combo allows the use of the head with a P4 body and Lee Moon's props prop up that prop. Michael represents a clear paradigm shift in the quality of faces. ECU's (extreme close ups) are a snap with Michael while head and shoulder shots are all P4 will handle with reasonable realism.

Everyone, Thank you for your suggestions. In the creation of Michael we tried to make him a "happy medium" between a bodybuilder and a normal person. It is quite impossible to go to all extreems of body types using one set of joint parameters. We needed to keep the character build within limits of clothing. Feel free to forward any other comments and suggestions you might have to tech@zygote.com . Thanks again, Eric Allen Zygote Media Group

I like the way Michael is today. He is of regular type and he is not too skinny neither. For me I will not try to do something with the P4 male and female but will concentrate my effort on Victoria and Michael. They are the future after all. As per the P4 men, someone did PHYSIQUE character and MULTI-MORPH character. One day It will happen the same thing to Michael. Great work Zygote. Claude

Well, Eric...gotta tell ya...I'm very disappointed with Mike's body as well. The "happy medium" that you talk about has been more than covered by the P4 male, and his many third-party morphs and incarnations. From all of the pre-release press, my expectation was that Mike's physiology would have been something special, i.e. a slightly muscled-down version of Zygote's remarkably realistic Muscle Man. Instead, it appears as if you've attached a realistic head and face onto a somewhat cartoonish, out-of-shape body. Sorry to hear that he's pretty much an "as is" creation cause he needs a major "below the neck" overhaul. For the most part, you guys do great work and your customer service is exemplary, but I'm sorry to say that with this figure, you've fallen short of the target.

Michael's not out of shape, I bet he scored nearlly perfect at the doctor's office on that Height/Weight/Age Scale...you know...the one they do for growing children...he's really a nearlly perfect man, by normal standards, but I'm not really normal, I prefer cushy real men, you know the ones that remind you of an oversized teddy bear :)

Thanks Mark.Michaels body DOES BLOW!I hope Eric at Zygote "CHANGES" his "As IS" Mentality.Zygote are VERY nice people,but they NEED TO HEAR what we are saying.I hope they do :)I was told to Also Buy the Muscleman.But what is the Point since his face is NOWHERE near as good as Micheals and he has no nads!Make the Morphs Zygote,we are right.THanks :0)

And where can I get Bobby?I mean at LEAST RKane made MuscleMorphs for FREE for the P4 Dork,a so Called "Millenium Man"Should have had "IT ALL".We DID make those Exact suggestions BEFORE he was made.Since we did,please INCLUDE them.I am not trying to be mean,His face and nipples and joints are GREAT!AND Zygote are a VERY nice company on the phone :0) Please Fix THIS! Thanks .

Bobby's available at Willow's PFO. The link is on the right. But you should know that Mike's many head/face morph's are not included, just his big ol' head. He was created as a interim figure while Mike was still wardrobeless - a way to put P4 guy's clothes on a figure with Mike's head. Yep, he's Frankenbobby. But now that Mikey's been to Banana Republic. Bobby's obsolete.

Thanks everyone for your comments, we're always happy to get feedback about how to improve our products. (You know what they say about 10 silent people agreeing with every vocal remark.) Mark and Artist3D, thanks for the specifics. We also got some complaints about the standard Poser man being too muscley believe it or not! We tried to create a physique between the two extremes, and judging by the responses/complaints we've received we actually think that we hit a pretty good happy medium even in retrospect. That being said, I think you have a good point here, and I'm sure that you're not alone in wanting a more muscular build. I've passed along your suggestion, and we in the Poser division now collectively feel that we would like to add a muscle bulk morph to Michael. However, since the Michael update CR2 is already behind schedule, and needs to be released very soon, I'm afraid that we won't be able to add this morph on to Michael at this time. We do plan on eventually releasing a kind of "super morph" CR2 for Michael, and will definitely want to include this morph then. Unfortunately, it will probably be a couple of months before we get to this project. I hope this isn't too disappointing. We appreciate all of your feedback. Even though we absolutely believe that there is no better quality figure available for the price of Michael, we know that there's always room to improve. (Creating this type of quality for this kind of price always involves concessions in many areas. Your comments will help us to decide what the concessions should involve on future products.) Thanks again for the feedback, Eric Allen Zygote Media Group

Eric,I Appreciate your response and as I KNEW,you people at Zygote ARE nice.I wish his Muscle Morphs would be ready sooner,but since you said you will do them,your word is good enough to hold me till then.Thanks :0) P.S. PLEASE when you do the Full MuscleMorphs,make them FULL ones,Chest,UpperChest,Biceps,Triceps,Neck pump,shoulders,lats,butt,legs,calves,Etc.Thanks again :0)