Hey Pancho! Hey Cisco! Where are the Mexican Cowboys? (In fact, where are the Mexicans?) Have never seen ANY Mexican characters ever in Poserland. What gives?

Colorful characters, but none to be found!

Gilbert Roland as the Cisco Kid.

It's a very good question. I hadn't even noticed the absence until you pointed it out. I listened to the Kid on radio when I was a kid.... and I hear him again now on the "old time radio" programs. Nowadays, when everything has to reek of sex and Freud, the relationship between Pancho and Cisco sounds either suspicious or amusing, depending on viewpoint. But back in the '50s there was nothing odd about being good friends. Or how about some Cantinflas-style scenes? Men in hundred-gallon hats, and ladies with pointy frontal ensembles.... With bras like those, who needs swords?

They're smarter than the gringos - they're still looking for a good horse :)

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I started a Wish List thread over at RDNA- initially on Clint Eastwood movie items but added to it Cisco Kid and Mexican Bandito items. Traveler has said he is already working on it and will see if he can get some of the other RDNA artists interested in the clothing items as well. Since their current big theme is Pioneer-Western stuff, and they already have a very nice Mexican Adobe series, a lot of these characters would fit right in, I think. But any encouragement from anyone else would also probably help as well...

Very cool! Personally I think that the ethno-centricity of most 3D work detracts from the beauty of our wonderful and vastly diverse world. I'm waiting with anticipation for some modeler to finally come up with an accurate Native American with correct skin tones and the cranial bone structure and eye folds. The "Mexican" figures will be just as diverse as the Native American ones. Think of the wide range of bone and facial structures that flow in and around Mexico, Central, and South America! How beautiful!!

There are a few mexican characters male and female here in the store. Marque

RNDA has just made available American Indian faces for M3 and V3. They are fine for what I want to do, but obviously people can quibble about are they "Indian enough" etc. (Not the "right" tribe, etc.) Same with Mexican characters- looking more for "sterotypical" clothes, rather than trying to create a diverse range of all possibilities of facial and body types. Obviously American Indians and Mexicans can actually look as "diverse" as anything since there are a lot of ethnic sub-mixes over the centuries, including even before Europeans got to the Americas. Not expecting National Geographic Magazine in the first go-around. That will come later over the years, I'm sure.

Well it's not exactely a mexican, but I've made bot a turk and an inuit character. Next on my list was actually an arabic female but I guess I could try out a mexican instead. Of course there's no such thing as a generic mexican, just as there's (contrary to some people's beliefs) a generic scandinavian girl. We do not ALL look like swedes ;o) ) RDNA has some nice looking indian faces for V3 (I only saw the thumbnail but the face there looked good) Great idea. With a serape and a sombrero he could be a nice addition to the RDNA western/adobe theme

We've looked at the M3 "Indian" faces and they seem to be OK, just only for M3. Ah, well...you can't have everything...where would you find the hard drive big enough to store it? ;-}

So you wouldn't want Gen3 morphs? Uh-oh. It's been a while since I worked with Mike 2. But perhaps it's worth a try :o) Right now I'm gonna continue my morph for one of the ...# characters though. But perhaps after that? :o)

Here's Pancho, the sidekick for the Cisco Kid (actually there were several Cisco Kids and Pancho's, as they have been in movies, TV and earlier on the old days radio shows.)

Pancho was a "Good Mexican" who helped Cisco shoot bad guys.
Cisco was a "Robin Hood Bandit", sort of like Zorro.

Don't know the name of this character actor, but he has become HUGELY FAMOUS for his classic line in the Humprey Bogart "Treasure of Sierra Madre" movie --

"Badges, we don't need no STINKEEN BADGES!"

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There are several websites DEVOTED to STINKEEN BADGES! Check the link for a COMPLETE list of Stinkeen Badges lines. One of my favorites is: In the Weird Al Yankovic 1989 film UHF. The host of "Raul's Wild Kingdom" says the following after receiving a shipment of certain animals in error. Raul Hernandez: "Badgers? Badgers? We don't need no stinking badgers! We ain't got no badges We ain't got no badges is probably one of the most frequently quoted, misquoted and parodied movie quotes in history The original quote comes from the 1948 film The Treasure of the Sierra Madre with Humphrey Bogart. One of the most memorable scenes in the movie is where a Mexican Bandit leader(Gold Hat) is trying to convince Bogart and company that they are the Federales. Bogart Character: "If you're the police, where are your badges?" Gold Hat (Leader of Bandits): Badges!? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges! I don't have to show you any stinking badges!! But the story doesn't end there. In an episode of The Monkees from 1967. The band members play at being Banditos. Michael (El Nesmito) wonders whether they should carry a club card or some badges. Micky (El Dolenzio) replies sneeringly with the line: Badges? We don't need no steeenking badges! In the 1974 Mel Brooks film Blazing Saddles probably the most famous parody of the line is delivered. Hedley Lamarr (Harvey Korman) is interviewing a line of criminals in order to deputise them so that they can terrorize a town. The line is filled with stereotypical criminals, from bikers to robed KKK clansmen. A group of Mexicans dressed in sombreros and bandoleros step up to him. He speaks to them briefly, hires them and tries to hand them deputy badges. The first stereotypical Mexican bandit: Badges? We don't need no stinking badges! In the 1984 film Brother From Another Planet, two "men in black" (alien bounty hunters) enter the bar where the alien was supposedly found. The bartender, suspicious of their intentions, demands to see some I.D. John Sayles, the director of the movie delivers the line. Man in Black: Badges? What badges? We don't have to show you any badges. In an episode of The A-Team (c. 1985), the team are hired to protect a female Rock and roll singer and Hannibal hatches a plan for them to dress as cops. Face: But we don't have any badges Murdock: Badges? We don't need no steeenking badges! In an episode of 3rd Rock from the Sun (c. 1996): Harry (French Stewart): Bagels? We don't need no stinking bagels! In the film 2001 movie Bubble Boy the following line is delivered: Big Biker: Patches? I don't need no stinking patches!

That would be the estimable Alphonse Bedoya, who died, IIRC, around 1960. You can look him up easily enough, I imagine. Played a lot of similar roles in many many movies and, if you can find some OLD Mexican movies, even a good guy. One of my neighbors has a large poster of him in his basement family room. That line is famous all over the world. A few years ago in Lillehammer, Norway, train station I heard some young people saying that line over and over. Don't know what the occasion was, but was pretty funny at the time.

--Gold Hat, as played by Alfonso Bedoya, delivered the famous "Stinkeen Badges" line...

ok here's my first attempt. Does he look mexican? I found some pics online, but.. I don't know any mexicans, they're rather rare here in scandinavia *L* Please note that the texture isn't the final one. I used the one from my Turkis Delight as it had a moustace. But I'm going to do a thinner one for the mexican

Well he has that Alfonso Bedoya type look. Hopefully Traveler will make a Bandoleer and maybe even a Serape like Clint were's in "Good,Bad". This could add up to a nice Bandit looking character. But he could also be a nice guy too, like Pancho. Neck scarf would be great, but I wonder if that's a difficult thing to do in Poser. (BTW, I've kidded you before about Danes and Scandinavians, but actually I've lived in Europe and one of my childhood friends was Danish. I had a crush on his beautiful older sister who quite frankly had those classic Blond hair, Blue Eyed "Swedish Girl" looks. So when I think of Danish girls she always comes to mind, Heh!)

Got this pic from a "The Three Amigo's" movie website. I think I'll post if over at RDNA as well to give folks there an idea of Pioneer-Western era Mexican Female clothes.

Steve Martin and Chevy Chase in "Amigo's". While this movie is of course a Western satire, the Mariachi-style clothes are more in the Sisco Kid style. I think this would make a good set for someone to make-, that way they could be gunslingers or musicians!

OOOoooooooooooh Steve Martin big sigh he's so CUTE!!!

Yeah I know you've been teasing me with that scandinavian thing L My excuse is that Denmark TECHNICALLY isn't in scandinavia, allthough we like to think of ourselves as scandinavians (after all Denmark has ruled both Norway and Sweden in the past, so we're entitled to it)

The funny thing is that whenever someone shows a picture of a "typical scandinavian" I usually think "oh that's a SWEDE". And since Denmark and Sweden has been arch enemies since 1600-something.. a "swede" is not a nice thing to call anyone ;o)

OK some claim that the war between Denmark and Sweden is over and that we're all "brothers"... and I've been to Sweden and, contrary to common belief they did NOT eat my kids GG so.. perhaps it's true too when they claim that swedes walk on 2 legs like real humans too...

OW!! It's a JOKE!! SERIOUSLY!

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I'm already working on a Mariachi outfit, more in the style of Antonio Bandaras in Desperado and OUTIM. (which is similar to Steve Martin and Chevy Chase up there but not as 'pretty') BUT, it will be for M3 and David, not Michael 1/2.

That sounds really good. I think the "Three Amigo's" costumes were meant to be a little "over the top" anyway, since these are Comedians, after all. Antonio Bandaras sounds like a good modern role model for this. And speaking of him, why hasn't someone made a Zorro character? There's another good one waiting to happen I think. Looks Like "SORRO" (or something like that).

Well, being married to a mexican, after reading this, and talking with my inlaws (my family, since my parents have died), I have managed to locate a film that will provide you with a great deal of good reference on general mexicans. Like Water For Chocolate. It's period enough, as well. However, avoid watching when hungry. The story itself is very heavily steeped in the magery of food. Also, for some really cool stuff but not as poser useful, read the book by Laura Esquivel. Had I but a camera right now, I'd be a grabbin texture sources, lol...

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Xurge also did a set of Mariachi costumes at the link above and Renapd did some great textures for them! I have them, but can't find them at RDNA any longer (although they are still in my account). They're called "Los Gringos" textures.

Great, looks like RDNA should update them for M3. I had kind of thought that Renapd must have done something like this since she has a Spanish Bullfighter character over at DAZ I was considering also. Can't find the right BULL however- at least one that really looks like a Spanish fighting bull. Personally I am still a big fan of M2, but the RDNA Adrian character makes M3 look pretty husky and "Male", which is what I like. A good set of Mariachi clothes that could be used as musicians or as Cisko Kid, would be the ideal mult-use clothing set. Hopefully Xena is planning something along these lines.