Note that those little babies are COCKABLE, Heh!

Hey Hey, Nice! A couple of corrections, though- the Colt 1851 was commonly called the Navy, or Navy size, and was a 36, the Colt 1861 was the Army, or 44 cal. Army or Navy really refers to caliber, many Navys serverd in the army, and visa-versa. I have a replica Army, BTW, it shoots very well.

Look through Questor's Western firearms on the freebie archive page at DAZ. You can pick up some gunbelts while you're there.

Somebody, somewhere, has never ridden a horse...

Me, for instance ....

What is Clint holding here? Dragoon? >> What is the pistol he's holding on Clint? Paterson?

He's holding two hog-legs in the shot from "Josey Wales". Eli Wallach may be holding Remington 1858s.

Produced by Colt from specs drawn by Capt. Samuel Walker. Designed for use by the US Mounted Dragoons during the Mexican War. Only 1,000 were issued by company designation, A,B,C, etc., and 100 for civilian sales. At 4 lbs. the Walker is the largest revolver ever made. Has one piece hardwood grips with a satin finish. Steel frame color cased. Caliber is .44. Blued 9 octagon to round. 1 in 60 twist. Front sight brass blade and rear sight V notch /hammer nose. Features a brass triggerguard, blued steel backstrap. Cylinder engraved w/Indian fight scene scene. 15 overall. Recommended load is 22 grains of FFFg black powder, .454 round ball with a .44 revolver wad.

It is not an exact model match but this in the ball park:

The Holster Model Paterson revolver is also known as the "Texas Paterson" since it is identified with the Texas Rangers and the famous Jack Hays. The barrels were marked "Patent Arms M'g Co. Paterson N.J. Colt's Pt." hence they came to be called "Patersons." Stock is European walnut with 1 piece flared grips. Has a blued steel frame. .36 caliber, blued, 7 1/2" tapered octagon barrel. Front sight is steel blade and rear sight is a V-notch hammer nose. Percussion 5 shot with .370 chamber diameter. Features color casehardenend frame plate, backstrap, hammer and folding trigger.

Actually that's the Mastermind of Trivia, Little Dragon. Got them both right! (He is wasting his talent here at Renderosity when he could easily be taking over the world in his spare time.)

"(He is wasting his talent here at Renderosity when he could easily be taking over the world in his spare time.)" How do you know he hasn't? Have you ever read "Michelmas" by Algis Budrys?

I'm not a computer, SamTherapy ... nor do I control the one that has taken over the world.

For real gun knowledge, you'd be better off consulting with Questor or Ironbear. I was only guessing on these, although I was fairly certain about the Paterson.

"I'm not a computer, SamTherapy ... nor do I control the one that has taken over the world." Cool! You have read it. Now tell me why I should trust you. ;)

BTW- the top two pistol images are courtesy of MDP (Mask Da) who is working on completing these two new pistol models and which will be available sometime in the future in an on-line store near YOU. Clothing courtesy of Bat Labs and Billy-T. Promotional fees paid in real Monopoly money. Gunslinging guests stay at the luxurious Maui Wailea Resort. This has been a Veritas Arcana production. I'm Don Pardo- saying "see you next week, same time, same station".

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The gun Eli is holding is a 51 Navy. In the movie the triggerguard was cut away (front 1/2) and he carried it on a thong rather than in a holster. If you look close you can see the rear of the triggerguard and the thong. wa waa waaaaaaa

'Fraid Don is rightnotice the loading lever and the "hump" where the cylinder meets the barrel. It is quite possible that there were no replica's of the Texas Patterson when t he film was made. In fact, these movies were one of the reasons for the resurgeance in interest in black powder firearms. The revolvers used by most characters in these films (at least in the close-up shots) were (or were intended to look like) Colt conversions of earlier models to accept cartrigdes. Historically innaccurate for the Civil War. These came along later when cartridge guns became available. Rather than buy a new revolver (a month or more pay for most cowhands) many were modified with new cylinders and modified frames Sorry I found this thread late. Nice to know there are other black powder/firearm/history nuts around here.Anyone want to talk about Imperial Roman historyad nauseam ;^D

I think Clint is holding a Walker (the front of the loading lever was different on Dragoons), Eli's pistol looks like it has a round barrel, so a Navy is out, it might be a replica "Baby 1848 Dragoon" (which may not have really existed, but there was a replica made...), otherwise I'm unsure. I do think I see a trigger guard, though, it is shiny brass and blending into the sky. hard to tell, though, it might be a Navy. It surely isn't a Remington, though, no top strap! ;-)

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Thanks Cooler! These are terrific links and exactly what I have been looking for. The "links" on the emf-company site are also loaded with fantastically great Western stuff, including photos of people shooting pistols and rifles from galloping horses. Great idea material. Wish I was a 3D modeler, those pistol schematics are perfect for people who want to 3D model classic pistols.

Ha!- The pistol in message #24 NOT an 1851 Navy, as it has the wrong type loading lever and a round barrel, it looks like a "New Model Small .36", often called "New Model Navy 1862", which is styled like the "New Model Army 1860", and aparently actually came out in 1860, it was a pocket pistol rebated up to Navy size. ;-) BTW, in them days: ARMY pistols were .44 NAVY pistols were .36 POCKET pistols were .31 cal

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It's the one at the top of the list, check it out yourself...

Let's See What We Have Here http://www.dixiegunworks.com

Product Name+ Price
12945 COLT MODEL 1851 NAVY REVOLVER $2,350.00
13082 COLT MODEL 1873 SINGLE ACTION ARMY REVOLVER $1,750.00
13105 COLT CLOVERLEAF REVOLVER $1,595.00
13133 COLT 3RD MODEL DRAGOON REVOLVER $8,250.00
13570 COLT MODEL 1873 SINGLE ACTION ARMY REVOLVER $2,100.00
13720 COLT MODEL 1873 SINGLE ACTION ARMY REVOLVER $3,750.00
13802 COLT MODEL 1908 SEMI-AUTOMATIC POCKET PISTOL $450.00
13902 COLT MODEL 1851 NAVY REVOLVER $3,950.00
13919 COLT NEW SERVICE REVOLVER $695.00
13920 U.S. MODEL 1894 DOUBLE ACTION ARMY REVOLVER $1,450.00
13964 COLT ARMY SPECIAL DOUBLE ACTION REVOLVER $425.00
13984 COLT BISLEY REVOLVER $1,195.00
14285 COLT BISLEY FLAT-TOP REVOLVER $8,950.00
14298 COLT MODEL 1873 SINGLE ACTION ARMY REVOLVER $1,450.00
14300 COLT MODEL 1873 SINGLE ACTION ARMY REVOLVER $1,495.00
14393 COLT OFFICIAL POLICE REVOLVER $475.00
14433 COLT MODEL 1873 SINGLE ACTION ARMY REVOLVER $1,625.00
14524 COLT MODEL 1873 SINGLE ACTION ARMY REVOLVER $1,895.00
14535 COLT U.S. MODEL 1903 ARMY DOUBLE ACTION REVOLVER. $795.00
14547 MINIATURE COLT WALKER REPLICA $495.00
14643 COLT MODEL 1851 NAVY REVOLVER $1,295.00
14657 COLT MODEL 1901 ARMY DOUBLE ACTION REVOLVER $695.00
14715 COLT MODEL 1873 SINGLE ACTION ARMY REVOLVER $2,995.00
14740 COLT MODEL 1851 NAVY REVOLVER $1,450.00
14752 COLT MODEL 1851 NAVY REVOLVER $2,150.00
14757 COLT MODEL 1873 SINGLE ACTION ARMY REVOLVER $1,595.00
14788 COLT MODEL 1877 LIGHTNING REVOLVER $1,450.00
14809 COLT MODEL 1851 NAVY REVOLVER $2,495.00
14836 COLT NO. 1 DERRINGER $1,395.00
14837 COLT MODEL 1851 NAVY REVOLVER $1,050.00
14888 COLT MODEL 1860 ARMY REVOLVER $1,995.00
14900 COLT MODEL 1873 SINGLE ACTION ARMY REVOLVER $10,500.00
14907 COLT MODEL 1851 NAVY REVOLVER $3,150.00
14928 COLT MODEL 1851 NAVY REVOLVER $1,950.00
14929 COLT MODEL 1849 POCKET MODEL REVOLVER $2,150.00
14932 COLT MODEL 1851 NAVY REVOLVER $2,695.00
15002 COLT POLICE POSITIVE REVOLVER $285.00
15064 COLT CLOVERLEAF REVOLVER $1,750.00
15065 COLT .22 OPEN TOP REVOLVER $575.00
15110 COLT 3RD MODEL DRAGOON REVOLVER $6,850.00

COLT MODEL 1851 NAVY REVOLVER $2,350.00 At first glance, a quite dirty gun but upon closer inspection, has some key condition features remaining. Gun could probably benefit from a careful cleaning. .36 caliber six-shot cylinder with 7 1/2" round barrel. Barrel coloration is mostly plum brown but with good shiny blue finish on the barrel lug. I would estimate that overall about 35% blue remains on the barrel lug and under the loading lever. Heavy muzzle wear is present on the upper portion of the barrel just in front of the front sight. Front sight is a silver blade type and is probably an old period replacement. Good color casehardening remains on the loading lever. Frame is mostly dull brownish gray but with sharply stamped Colt's patent marking on the left side. Serial number 24209 matches on all parts including barrel wedge. Cylinder retains about 80% cylinder scene engraving. Four safety pins are still intact on the rear of the cylinder. Brass backstrap and triggerguard have a very unusual dull reddish coloration. One piece walnut grips have about 30% varnish overall with the balance quite dark and dry. Overall condition of the gun is very good plus.

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Well I bought them, Amazing work. Mask-Da does fantastic pieces, ( I also bought his Colt SAA ). The only fault, if you can call it that, is the "brand new" look. I have only one wish, no make that two wishes. 1) A texture set that makes them look rusty/worn/used 2) a peroid holster and gunbelt also well worn. Anybody interested? I also have a question, is there any way I can tone down the shine on the cylinder, etc?

On the holster question- I am hoping someone like Billy-T might supply those, since he has done Western great boots, belts, etc. But, yes, these are stunningly beautiful models that MDP has made- totally worth the $10! (As is his other pistol.)

The texture looks really good to me! These really excellent reproductions by MDP. Glad that he has an interest in this era of Western guns. Checking through my own Western collection the best currently available gunbelts are from DAZ- their Cowboy character for M3 (which is on sale until tomarrow afternoon) and Questor's free guns and belts in the DAZ freestuff area. If you don't have those you should go over an get them because they come also with templates for texturing. If you check some of the Western supply websites on the above links you can get some nice photo reference stuff that can be applied to the DAZ Cowboy or Questor gunbelts to increase their details and realism. One other Cowboy character is available over at PoserWorld. He actually comes with some very nice texture sets and worth being a Poserworld member if you are into the full cowboy look in your character renders.

The 1860 Army and the 1862 (or 60, or 61 ;-))New Model Small .36 looked very similar, I doubt if many parts would interchange, though- maybe the loading levers. The Army was built on the 51 Navy frame, but had a bigger handle (or grip), the 1862 was built on the smaller "pocket pistol" frame and either had the smaller navy-size handle or an even smaller one (I'm unsure).

Yah! That looks really good. And that's another really good product from MDP as well. Glad he's on the case.