How do you create or edit new vegetation with flowers and or fruit? Thanks

You can't "add" flower or fruit meshes to the mesh in the plant editor, as far as I can figure out. A couple of suggestions: create a new leaf material, with a transparency, with flowers/fruit on it and apply in either the plant editor or material editor, or use either separate flower or fruit meshes or alpha planes and place them on the plant or tree individually. Guitta may have experience doing it other ways, but these are the ways I'd do it!

It seems like the plant editor can only exchange one leaf (bitmap) type for another and not be able to add a new one. Either I get a plant with all flowers or all leaves. Is that true?

Not exactly...you can create your own foliage bitmaps...and put leaves, flowers, or whatever you want on them, and apply them in the editor. Check out Guitta's website at www.guitta.net; at the menu, go to tutorials, and look at the lessons on "Create new plants" and the other tree and plant associated lessons for ideas on how to do this. You can't add new meshes (like fruit) to a tree within the plant editor, as far as I know. You could try exporting a tree and using a modeling program to add fruit, and then reimporting it, but other than that, you'd have to use the alpha planes or separate fruit meshes and add them to your tree. Vue isn't a modeler, really, there are other programs that do that much better, but the plant editor in Vue Pro does let you change the shapes of your vegetation quite a bit.

That tutorial only shows again how to replace one leaf for another. The question is how to add an empty subset in the plant editor for both trunk/stems and leaf/petals pull down menus. I will have to find a vue plant that has both empty subsets in the leafs and trunk pull down menus. Any one know of one? Primrose has empty ones in the Leaf pull down but not in Trunk....;( Thanks

The only way to add fruit to a tree (as part of the editor) would be to do as the others have suggested and include the fruit in the same texture as the leaf, which isn't really all that great unless it's really far away (as the fruit would be flat since Vue's plants are simply alpha plane leaf textures mapped onto alpha planes attached to the branches of the tree) If you are close up and need the fruit to look real you're going to have to take the time and place the fruit manually on the tree. If you want really sophisticated trees you're better off trying X-Frog or a program that actually models plants and trees. Sorry if you were hoping for more out of Vue.

But it can be done... I just need a Vue plant that has empty subsets in both the leaf and trunk subsets in the plant editor . Or is there a way to create an empty subset?

Check out the Vue Pro manual pages 199-207 for detailed descriptions of using the plant editor and see if you can find your answer there, I saw nothing about creating additional subsets but it does mention fruit under the "editing plants" section.

The plant editor is more of a existing plant modifier then it is an editor.

Satfj you bring up a very good question and you really got me interested and perhaps to get an answer that makes sense, post this question at e-on's user forum where you have a much better chance of getting the right answer. There are many there that maybe able to fill us all in on this one instead of being confused here at RR. I look forward to finding this one out myself. Thanks for bring it up.