I see Daz3d has Bryce on for a really great price of $59.00. This may convert a Vue person over... Can a printed manual be purchased as well ????

Lol, yeah it's called "Real World Bryce 4" Seriously, that would be a next good move on DAZ's part, a printed manual at least available for sale. But also seriously...Real World Bryce 4 is FAR better than the manual. And, actually written by the same person who did the Bryce manual. Doesn't have anything on extra's found in Bryce 5, but those things you can easily get from us. ;o) (or the pdf manual) Amazon.com has it for (used & new) starting at around $21 right now. Which is how I got my most recent (perfect) copy. AgentSmith

"This may convert a Vue person over..." Which version of Vue do you own? Although I've used Bryce5 for a long time, I've rencently switched to Vue4 (not the pro version) with Mover 5. I wanted to get my poser 5 figures with dynamic clothing and hair into Bryce and there was no way to do it. So I did get Vue4 Esprit + Mover 5 and it rocks, makes Bryce 5 look like a toy. I've just noticed that DAZ purchased Bryce 5 and saw that their aiming at integration between Poser/DAZ Studio/Bryce 5 and do have a tool to import Poser figures directly into Bryce, though you need DAZ Studio too. Tried it but had no luck at all, only had crashes.... I'll stick with Vue4 for sure, no crashes and good integration with Poser5 and crisp looking landscapes!

Well, nice to see in your 4 years as a member and as a long time Bryce user, you have finally decided to stop by our forum to say "hi" benjamin... AgentSmith

The Susan Kitchens "Real World Bryce 4" is a must for anyone that wants to gain a thorough understanding of Bryce. It has a wealth of relavent information all applicable to Bryce 5. The only thing you won't find in this book is working with the Tree Lab and Metaballs. There is also an online help that is installed when you install Bryce 5.

AgentSmith, I did never get around to doing it, they're are so many forums around, but do expect me more often here now, I've pulled up some good info from the forums already and instead of visiting lot's of forums it seems a good concentration of 3D forums here. By the way I also made my first purchase here after 4 years :)