Someone who has all these three tools, I'd like you to try something out for me. Post in this thread or IM me. Thanks.

Stew -- I do. Wouldn't be able to do it until tomorrow though -- I'm testing ou this one script thing for someone right now....

I have them, but I'm in the middle of a complete reinstall of the OS (Win2K) and Poser. It will take a few days (nights actually... sigh), I'm also installing SR 4.1 and moving almost everything in the main runtime, but hopefully everything should run faster after that. What is actually that we should try? Did you improved on their importer?

Nevermind, I just bought a copy of Bryce, will test it myself tonight. I do have 30 days of money-back guarantee, right?

Message edited on: 06/28/2004 06:01

lol!! yes, you do, sir :)

So then Bryce now has 30 days left to convince me that I want it :)

(Note: I love bryce.) well then -- that should give you just enough time to complete 1 render....

Render times don't scare me - it does network rendering, right? I have a dozen G5s or so at work... evilgrin

oh -- never mind then. yeah with lightning installed and some G5's -- make it 3 renders... ok, ok, I'll get serious. 5

Remember padwan bryce is a patient mans application :-) while it has some of the best default out door daylighting. it also has a very slow non adaptive raytracer the raytraces ALL scene elements not just reflective and refactive materials. I have used the Bryce program since version 2 but after getting version 5.1 for OSX I basicly switched to Cinema4DXL when the poserpropack import plugin was released. good luck.

Stewer -- look really close at the materials system, though. Keeping in mind that it's pretty much what, 5 years old, I think you'll enjoy it. DAZ did right, too -- they grabbed the best pro-am folks available (besides Susan Kitchens), and they now have all of BryceTech's tutes installed in the Arcana. Hit them up quick -- you won't need to tlearn the basics except some nav stuff, but you'll like a lot of the little quirks that are there. Slow as it is, that rendering engine makes some AWFULLY pretty pictures...

Hey Stewer - I haven't been able to get network rendering to work since OS10.2.6. Could you let me know if it works for you? Thanks! Dan

wolf where did you get the poserpropack import plugin, is it at the Maxon site? Thanks, Marque

I believe that was greenbriar...

At first Bryce can be a nightmare but once you get used to moving around the UI and find the amazing things you can create in the deep texture editor, in fact all the editors are amazing, I think you'll love it just like the rest of us addicts. If I can give you any help at all Stewer please drop me an IM. 8) Catlin

IM talking about the original poser propack plugin for 3D MAX,Lightwave and cinema4DXl from curious labs I still keep myold seat of Cinema4DXL 7.3.3installed on my mac OS9 harddrive for importing full poser scenes with materials&animation I dont have greenbriars import tools because you still have to reset vertex weights after import

Attached Link: http://www.keindesign.de/stefan/poser/scripts/objex.py

Will this work in Poser 5 too?

For Poser 5 it should require an installation of the PIL (Python Imaging Library) in Poser's Python runtime. You may try installing it yourself, but I'll try to build an installer within the next few days.

oh, sweet!!!! Stewer, you did it again. dancing

Let me know if it works for you - I could test it on only one computer so far.

Is this for stills only??

Message edited on: 06/29/2004 06:26

stewer thank you! I can't get D|S/Turbo Importer to work on my system :( Cannot wait to try this out!

wolf359 I could make it export a series of OBJ files, but to get mesh deformations to Bryce, that'd require changes to Bryce itself (or at least, a separate plugin, which'd require a public SDK for Bryce).

I downloaded the Shockwave Beta thingy from CL and installed it into P5, loaded a Pz3 and tried the script and it creates an object and an mtl file but obviously stops somewhere in between before it is completely finished. I tried several times and sometimes I get an mtl that has texture information and sometimes it is an empty file.

I get this message:

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 82, in ?
File "", line 37, in write
File "D:Poser5RuntimePythonPILImage.py", line 405, in convert
self.load()
File "D:Poser5RuntimePythonPILImageFile.py", line 125, in load
self.load_prepare()
File "D:Poser5RuntimePythonPILImageFile.py", line 175, in load_prepare
self.im = Image.core.new(self.mode, self.size)
File "D:Poser5RuntimePythonPILImage.py", line 43, in getattr
raise ImportError, "The _imaging C module is not installed"
ImportError: The _imaging C module is not installed"

Attached Link: http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/index.htm

When I try to install the PIL for Python 2.2 it tells me theres no Python installed on my computer according to the registry :o/ I have Poser 5, so I should have Python 2.2 too, right?

Attached Link: http://effbot.org/zone/python-register.htm

This is the script that should register python. But I don't see how to USE it? # # script to register Python 2.0 or later for use with win32all # and other extensions that require Python registry settings # # written by Joakim L for Secret Labs AB / PythonWare # # source: # http://www.pythonware.com/products/works/articles/regpy20.htm import sys from _winreg import * # tweak as necessary version = sys.version[:3] installpath = sys.prefix regpath = "SOFTWAREPythonPythoncore%s" % (version) installkey = "InstallPath" pythonkey = "PythonPath" pythonpath = "%s;%sLib;%sDLLs" % ( installpath, installpath, installpath ) def RegisterPy(): try: reg = OpenKey(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, regpath) except EnvironmentError: try: reg = CreateKey(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, regpath) SetValue(reg, installkey, REG_SZ, installpath) SetValue(reg, pythonkey, REG_SZ, pythonpath) CloseKey(reg) except: print "*** Unable to register!" return print "--- Python", version, "is now registered!" return if (QueryValue(reg, installkey) == installpath and QueryValue(reg, pythonkey) == pythonpath): CloseKey(reg) print "=== Python", version, "is already registered!" return CloseKey(reg) print "*** Unable to register!" print "*** You probably have another Python installation!" return if name == "main": RegisterPy() I tried saving it as a .reg file but that wasn't the way to do it L.. so... then what? Save it as a .py? And run it with.. what?

Ah.. I tried to run it from Poser L and it worked :o)

Except... That the PIL installer now crashes when I try to run it :-( It does find the python version in the Poser folder, but... It is the PIL 1.1.4, meant for Python 2.2. WinXP Home, if that makes any difference...

Strange that the installer crashes... P5 should come with Python 2.2, as far as I remember.

Message edited on: 06/29/2004 11:59

Yes, when I registered it, it said "Python 2.2 now registered" But the installer gets to where it should start installing and nothing hapens. Then if/when I click "next" once more, it crashes :o(

Ooops ... I think I wait and see how you get this solved before I install anything new.

Did the SR4.1 update the version of python with Poser5?

OK, found the problem. You need a slightly modified version of the registration script. Try the one behind the link, after that you should be able to run the PIL installer and to use my exporter script with Poser 5.

Attached Link: http://www.keindesign.de/stefan/poser/scripts/register.py

The registration worked. I installed the PIL 1.1.4 but I still get this error

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "", line 82, in ?
File "", line 37, in write
File "D:Poser5RuntimePythonPILImage.py", line 405, in convert
self.load()
File "D:Poser5RuntimePythonPILImageFile.py", line 125, in load
self.load_prepare()
File "D:Poser5RuntimePythonPILImageFile.py", line 175, in load_prepare
self.im = Image.core.new(self.mode, self.size)
File "D:Poser5RuntimePythonPILImage.py", line 43, in getattr
raise ImportError, "The _imaging C module is not installed"
ImportError: The _imaging C module is not installed"

I looked at the path D:Poser5RuntimePythonPILImage.py and I have an Image.py file in that directory. It is dated from 23. Oktober 2000.

Does Runtime/Python/PIL contain files that end with .pyd?

Yep, and I found the error. I had an idea and just ran the image.py in Poser and it told me that there is a python15.dll missing. I copied it over from ProPack to P5 and now it works ... nearly. Got another error message telling me bad form. But it created a nice mtl file with nearly all materials listed except two or three. I think it looked for the python15.dll because I had installed the shockwave thingy for ProPrack into P5 before. I have installed the PIL 1.1.4. for Python 2.2 yesterday and registered it but anyway ... maybe best is I deinstall everything and try all over.

Yes, you shouldn't have installed the Shockwave thing on P5 - it's not compatible with it. You won't need to do a full wipe - you could install P5 to a new directory (don't forget to apply the SRs) and then copy the runtime/python folder to your old runtime. That should give you a clean Python runtime in your existing Poser setup.

Thank you, will try that :-)