I went to Ann Arbor, MI, Art Fair this weekend and while there were plenty of traditional artists, there were also a few computer artists and one guy was even selling Bryce pictures!! For several hundred dollars each!! Well, I say selling, lets say they were for sale. And (hoping he's not one of you guys), the Bryce ones weren't anything too special. Chrome shapes over infinite terrains with a blue cloudy sky. I can pick any page in the Bryce gallery here and find (at least) 17 pictures better than that. But I say good luck to him. He had the thought to print them off, frame them and go set up a stall and sell them. Where as I just sit here day after day playing around, not making any money. There was another chap selling massive Studio Max prints, now HE was pretty good. I'm trying to track him down, but stupidly I forgot to make a note of his name.

Cool. I've always wanted to do that, but I just have realized that not many people are into sci-fi images hanging up in their room, except for me, and other people... Specific, ain't I?

I've made probably over $700 selling inexpensive Bryce prints, notecards, and postcards over the last year at two different art shows. And sadly (artwise not moneywise), one of my most popular images is the one above.

I do that here.. print, frame..hold exhibitons, sell 'em. Evene created a slide show..been showing it around to interior designers. though it's a pretty slow going... jasonmit..things like that sell more coz it's different.. it's not the run of the mills tuff where one puts poser, create cars, spaceships. Don't expect to make potsfull of money... digital art is still a relatively new art form...

Yeah, I guess so, erosiaart. It's just kinda funny because the image above has the old Bryce-newbie reflected spheres and water. By the way, since I posted the above an hour or so ago, I sold two boxes of my Bryce artwork notecards at $8 US each. Not much, but it's something.

It's sad but true that the 'not artistic general public' seem to like the shiny balls/water type images. I have themes/wallpaper sites and those always get far more downloads than intricate landscapes etc. :(

My latest idea is to try to paint/draw (with pastell/oilpastell/acryl) the CG/Bryce stuff on REAL paper :-), I've got some beautiful results but didn't exhibit the works yet.

whats wrong with shyny balls ;)

Oh nothing wrong with shiny balls and making money at it. But it's like buying a Ferrari and then just using it to drive to the shops and back. A waste of it's full potential.

The thing is, Jasonmit, that picture may not represent the real scope of your abilities but it is a nice piccy. Sure, I probably could do the same - but I haven't. You thought of the scene, you made the scene - and you deserved to sell the scene. Art is about ideas not techniques. Just coz something was easy to produce doesn't take anything away from the vision that made it the great pic it is. I may not know much, but I know what I like.

I sold those little gold plated sand dollars, pinecones, ginko leaves, etc. in the 80s. In our $500 order we also bought a $64 sample pack. The most expensive sample was a set of fan shaped shells that were almost 3" across. These had little scenes of a beach sunset with a coconut palm hand painted on the surface. They were the gaudiest, largest, and most expensive thing on our table.

The show opened up and up walks a bleach blond all dressed like Stevi Nicks. She heads right to the shells and says, "These would look great on me when I'm riding my horses." She plunks down a hundred dollar bill and buys them and 3 pairs of pearl studs and a freshwater necklace.

I know what I like and I know what the public likes, They're not the same. If you want to eat watch what the public likes and give it to them. Take the money home and get what you want.

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There's nothing wrong with shiny balls, its just that we Bryce artists are (for the most part) past that stage where we only knew how to use primitives, terrains, and textures, and we thought a Boolean meant some kind of noodle. Bryce has made me a net gross of about $6.

I would also like to add that with the $6, I bought my girlfriend a mocha frapachino and she was delighted, thus ensuring my survival for a few days, so don't say it doesnt pay off.

Ok....Where do I go to make money off my art...? I have sold a few to people I know and some customers but that is all...Point me in thy direction Please...

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With digital art, one key is to get out of the home printer mindset as anyone can print a 8"x10" or 11"x17" 'poster.' Have your artwork professionally printed. For example, I had one of my pieces printed as a 30"x24" poster with an offset printing company. Because I ordered 250 of them, they cost just over $2 each and I sell them for $12. (Again, a spheres/water images but the spheres aren't shiny in this one). My biggest seller is my box of notecards. I sell a box of twelve 5"x7" notecards (4 each of 3 different images) with envelopes. My cost is $4.50 but I sell them for $8. I've been fortunate in that my care center (I'm severely disabled) has an art show every year where residents can show and sell their work. Most of the artwork is very amateurish, but there are three of us who are true artists and people gravitate toward our work. The other two are traditional Southwest artists (Native American/animal sceneshand-drawn) so my artwork really stands out. I also do professional speaking at churches and include my artwork on my merchandise table along with my book and music CD. In the near future, I'm going to have giclee canvas prints made of a few of my pieces. These will be limited editions and cost from $35-$50 each. I will sell them for $150-$200. I won't be able to sell them at my care center art show because the customers there are low-paid medical workers, but I should be able to sell them at some of the more affluent churches at which I hope to speak. The $16 I made yesterday was from a sale I made off my web site. I advertised my note cards to my e-mail list of 400+ subscribers (it's a Christian daily devotional I write) and sold two boxes within a few hours. The link above shows how I set up my order page.

Have kinkos do a pro print of everything.

Yep I had Kinko's print two for me and it cost close to a hundred bucks for the both...Of course they were printed at 12.5"x18.5" and 18.5"x16.5" and I sold those each at 75$...But I decided to buy an Epson 1520 cost 499$ and prints 17x22 but I can use Banner Paper so then I can do 17"x40" or what ever for Posters or what not...Problem is by the time I print out just the prints of 16x24 or so I have to charge 25$ so I can do 3 or 4 and then still be able to get the Paper and Ink cost back...I am starting to put together screensavers together for sale and of course working on coming out with a calender or four for next year...I hope you sell lots and get the word out for us Brycers,May things hopefully improve on your Situation...BTW tell evrybody we said Hello and come and Join the fun at Renderosity...

I do mostly book covers and web site design with Bryce now. I did the print and merchandise thing for a while, but it wasn't steady enough, since the client is usually buying the art as a luxury rather than as a need. But yeah, there's money to be made with Bryce artwork. The thing to remember is you can't focus on just the art; you have to do some salesmanship and networking, too.

Ok...Explain Aprilgem....And how are you...?Havent talked to you in awhile..

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Hey, foleypro! :-) So far I'm keeping myself uber busy, which I like. I have an endless list of things to do, projects for clients and stuff, and as I cross one out, two more take its place. I LOVE IT! :-D How are you? Doing well I hope! lol, and "Explain"? Which part? "I do mostly book covers and web site design with Bryce now." I still have my day job as a graphic designer, but during the evenings and weekends I do some work for a few e-publishers and a few authors. Bryce is just a part of the work that I do, but it's there. If you go to the link above and click "Book Covers" in the navigation menu, you'll find 10 of those covers were done partly or fully with Bryce (there will be 11 soon when I put up my latest). See if you can guess which ones they are, lol. And if you go to "Web Site Design" in the menu, you'll find two of the web design templates I created for an author sport header graphics done in Bryce. "I did the print and merchandise thing for a while, but it wasn't steady enough, since the client is usually buying the art as a luxury rather than as a need." I have a shopping cart set up on my two art sites, and I sell prints of my artwork. I don't advertise much, so I haven't sold many, and it's always a surprise when I get e-mail saying that a payment has been made and someone ordered an art print. I've also tried the Cafepress stuff -- not many sales there either. But again, I don't advertise. I guess I don't feel right about it because prints and merchandise are usually impulse buys. The people buying it don't really need the stuff, so I feel guilty for advertising. So I don't focus on that any more. "But yeah, there's money to be made with Bryce artwork." One of my Bryce commissions got me enough to buy some new hardware in just one shot, and I get a payment up front plus royalties on my book cover work. What I love about royalties is that long after the work is done, I still get paid, and I don't have to do any selling or advertising to get it. "The thing to remember is you can't focus on just the art; you have to do some salesmanship and networking, too." There are a lot of really awesome artists on Renderosity who would be willing to do artwork for pennies, but a lot of them remain hobbyists because they stay within the community and don't sell their work outside, where there are a lot of non-artists looking for affordable art. It's like being highly skilled with a lot of job experience but never getting a job interview because you don't send out your resumes. If one never ventures, one never gains.

Wow...I need to get it together...I have made $150.00 from my art,I have been planning on doing some calenders and maybe some Cards,I would LOOOOOVVVVEEEEE to be able to do some BOOK COVERS and Posters and get a Day job Using all of the Software I love useing...BUT Nope,I get to struggle at an almost deadend job...AutoZone gives me 15-20 hours a week if I am lucky,and working at the computer store pays as much as Autozone...Which is Peanut CRUMBS...Some stupid RULE they have about NewBies...Had $17.00 left for food for two weeks after I had all of the Bills Paid...Used to work 50+ hours a week But that BOSS lost 2 buisness's,Worked for him for almost 10 years...Well something will come along,If not I will make it...Anyways I am off to see that link above...Great to see so many people are Making Money with Bryce...Me next,Me next...?

Excellent site...Awesome work on the Book covers and Graphics...Might look ya up when I need a site overhaul...

Foleypro, the best thing you can do if you want to do book covers is to look up as many publishers as you can (for both books and magazines) and submit your portfolio to all of them. Create a few mock ups if you have to flesh out your folio. I'd try to bring more artists in with me at the pubs I do some work for, but we don't really have a need for more artists right now. The number of cover artists available to epubs in the last few months have totally JUMPED. As for posters, there's Cafepress and Zazzle. All you have to do is sell, sell, sell. But again, that's the hard part. :)

Aint dat da Truth....Yeah I will get a PortFoleyO together one day...Still working on Animations to put in it...Thanks...Make Lots of money...