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Subject: pumeco-Pro-render.. your first mistake.


striving ( ) posted Sun, 22 August 2004 at 2:06 PM · edited Sat, 11 January 2025 at 5:50 PM

Hey, just wanted to throw this out.

I personally was looking forward to your add-on, program, plugin.. whatever it is called. I liked the renders I have seen and thought it had a lot of promise.

But with all this jabbering going on about it in endless threads I have grown tired with the whole issue. It has left a bitter taste in my mouth.

Pumeco, your first mistake was coming here with raves and rants about a product you didn't have ready to share. This is not meant as a personal attack. But an observation. You linked to a website in your very first post, that last time I checked is STILL NOT UP. (I think your excitment got the better of your reason.)

My advice..
-Take a break from arguing here in the forums.
-Get your product ready for consumption by Bryce users.
-Complete your website and post a link to it here in a new thread, when I and others can go and download the working product. PERIOD!

If your product is all your have shown it to be, you will see the hits to your page grow, the use of your product flourish and your good name be restored for the most part.

Take it or leave it (my advice). But this constant posting about something that isn't avilable is getting really, really old.. PS, if I am mis-imformed on any of this, my apologise in advance.

Message edited on: 08/22/2004 14:09


MoonGoat ( ) posted Sun, 22 August 2004 at 2:38 PM

Makes sense to me, but I'll bet he won't reply.


Quest ( ) posted Sun, 22 August 2004 at 2:44 PM

Well said Striving and I agree, his excitement got the better of him and he made promises that werent kept, then along came the DAZ/ Bryce buyout that may have dashed his hopes. He mustnt forget that hes dealing with experienced Brycians here many of which have many years of experience and have been using it since the product first appeared in the Mac platform from the very beginning. He should get himself together, get his product, facts and web site in order and if his product is any good, well priced and worth having, it will naturally rise to the top without all the commotion. Lets put a stop to this bickering and the innuendos and not allow crossover forum arguments taint us.


pumecobann ( ) posted Sun, 22 August 2004 at 2:46 PM

MoonGoat, I dunno... :-) striving, No, you're not mis-informed, but I disagree with what is thought of me. In the next couple of days, I will start a NEW thread, which I hope will sort this whole project, once and for all. It's unfortunate that I can't seem to get along with people here - I've tried. But the fact of the matter is, there's a lot more to me and pumeco than you might think. There are reasons why I've handled this project the way I have - and the new thread will reveal all. I've decided to give out the files of PRO-RENDER. But, before I do, important issues regarding the marketing of the project HAVE to be put FACE-TO-FACE with this community - and I'll do that in the new thread. Be patient - I'm not the person the community may think I am. Len.

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


tjohn ( ) posted Sun, 22 August 2004 at 3:35 PM

Please, take Pumeco at his word and be patient. Please don't add any more vitriol to this new thread, anyone. Please constrain yourself and wait and see. Consider doing so a present for my 51st birthday this Friday, August 27. Pretty please with sugar on top?

This is not my "second childhood". I'm not finished with the first one yet.

Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.

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striving ( ) posted Sun, 22 August 2004 at 3:47 PM

I dont have anything against the guy. Meaning You Pumeco! LOL. In fact, I ignored most of those threads.. But like I said above.. Let it all go and just post the damn thing on your site when it is done.. Trust me.. starting a NEW thread to try to talk to people around here and make nice isn't going to do ANYTHING.. What will do everything is Getting your SITE UP AND RUNNING WITH THE PROG! But do what you want.. I just see another thread of 75 replies of BS and fighting coming soon to the forum LOL.


pumecobann ( ) posted Sun, 22 August 2004 at 4:01 PM

It's not that sort of post! ;-)

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


RobertJ ( ) posted Sun, 22 August 2004 at 4:36 PM

Only posting for the E-bot ^___^

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pogmahone ( ) posted Sun, 22 August 2004 at 4:43 PM

My Gawd, another thread :o( Please please please have mercy on us. We only want to have fun and swap tips and hang out with our friends. We're chillin'


pumecobann ( ) posted Sun, 22 August 2004 at 5:17 PM

pog? This thread or my upcoming? ;-/

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


Zhann ( ) posted Sun, 22 August 2004 at 5:57 PM

Posting for the ebot...and the interesting exchange...curious as to the new thread and explaination....

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Swade ( ) posted Sun, 22 August 2004 at 7:37 PM

I am with Tjohn on this one.... Please people, as Tjohn stated, stomp out the flames that have arisen and let Len bring Pro-Render to us in his own way. Patience is a virtue after all. 8) Hope you have a great Birthday Tjohn.8) Waiting to read your new thread Len. 8)

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jedswindells ( ) posted Sun, 22 August 2004 at 7:38 PM

I agree with tjohn the ancient one. I can make pictures with Bryce and I can post here at the forum,but I know sod all about making add-ons,plug-ins etc.And I'll bet a pound to a pinch of excreta that such work is beyond most of us. So lets give pumeco a chance to get on with his project without hassle.


captor213 ( ) posted Sun, 22 August 2004 at 10:16 PM

Im suprised AS hasnt stomped on this by now,he must be pretty busy. I blame the media blamers - Dale Dribble (King Of The Hill)


MoonGoat ( ) posted Sun, 22 August 2004 at 10:39 PM

Or on an extended vacation to the Bahamas :)


Melansian_Mentat ( ) posted Sun, 22 August 2004 at 10:51 PM

Hayat ta'awila ila semac!


pogmahone ( ) posted Mon, 23 August 2004 at 2:55 AM

"pog? This thread or my upcoming? ;-/ " This thread.


bikermouse ( ) posted Mon, 23 August 2004 at 9:29 AM

Mouse be chillin' Yeah, where is Agent Smith? It's almost like he was abducted by aliens or something.


Melansian_Mentat ( ) posted Mon, 23 August 2004 at 9:31 AM

We of Arrakis know nothing of any abduction....Honest!


pakled ( ) posted Mon, 23 August 2004 at 11:01 AM

Some folks get riled up about that kinda thing (the announcement, then the waiting..you think this is bad, you shoulda seen the Poser 5 and Daz Studio announcements..they had everything short of death threats in there..;)
as I've stated before, I'd prefer to wait for something that works, rather than get a rushed-to-deadline addon fulla bugs..;) I think that people's expectations just got kinda high..so..it'll get here when it gets here..

I wish I'd said that.. The Staircase Wit

anahl nathrak uth vas betude doth yel dyenvey..;)


pumecobann ( ) posted Mon, 23 August 2004 at 1:28 PM

"Im suprised AS hasnt stomped on this by now,he must be pretty busy." Yeah, and I'm dreading his return. I've seen his avatar over at DAZ - and it kinda reminds me of the TERMINATOR. And, as would be said...I'll be back! But seriously, looking back at what I posted, that comment came out all wrong, and I was out of line to word it like that, sorry AS. Len. (awaiting possible doom).

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006


Slakker ( ) posted Mon, 23 August 2004 at 7:44 PM

Actually...his avatar at DAZ is the character Agent Smith from The Matrix trilogy. Get out to Blockbuster every once in a while..lol While i'm still the cynic about the whole situation, i'll wait to see what comes out of it.


AgentSmith ( ) posted Tue, 24 August 2004 at 3:47 AM

Been out of town. I was told I was going to have internet access the whole time I was gone, but no....had nada. (time to get my own laptop) Anyway...enough on this subject. I don't think I'm censoring here, all this is just fanning the flames of...flaming on both ends. Hopefully, pumeco will be able to roll out some coolness for us at some point real soon. But, yes it might be best to wait to say anything more on Pro-Render until some part of it is available (product, website, etc) Forgive any ignorance about ongoing subjects, I'm working my way chronologically through the forum posts here. Thiis is the first I'm clicking on. I tread onward, lol. AgentSmith

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