That's great! It reminds me of the only Buddy Hacket joke I could tell in this forum. A woman and her boyfriend go into the graveyard to fool around. Next day she has a backache and goes to the doctor. The doctor examines her and says, "You told me you were only 29 Ms. Johnson?" "Yes, why do you ask?" "Well, It says on your backside you died in 1869."

OK,.........this just goes to futher prove the decline of western civilization.

lol what about spam away? great find ornlu

Whatever happened to soap and water?

"Whatever happend to soap and water?" It went the way of the "McRib".

Uh oh.. you mean water clogs my arteries and shortens my overall life expectancy? I better cut back.

On the topic of off topic-ness.. I found out today that I lost a bit of hearing in my right ear from wearing one cup of a headphone while mixing music / general listening of music with headphones while listening to what's going on around me for many hours for the past few years.. Sucks.. My left ear is much more tone sensitive than my left now. It happened because when wearing only one cup of the headphone I had inadvertently turned the volume way up to compensate (your brain interprets it as not being very loud since it's only effecting one ear...) Seems that I always left the phone on my right ear. But anyway I was very sad to hear this because I love music.. I noticed it when listening to some classical music. The clarinets which should have been near dead center of the soundstage in this piece sounded as if they were further left than they should be... The more I thought about it the more everything seemed to be shifted left except the extreme right in the soundstage. After noticing this with several pieces I ran to my computer and started up the tone generator. I put down only the left ear piece and turned the tone to 19,000 hz.. fine.. I could hear it up to 19,4000-19,500.. so then I put on the left ear piece.. silence.. turned it down to 19,000 dead silence.. So I start panicking, turned it down to 18,600 and I could hear it.. whew.. not that bad. overall there is also about a 2 Decibell drop in hearing. (when I equalized the headphones by sending a 70 DB 1,000 hz signal in the left and adjusted the right until it sounded identical) But I do miss the little details that I could hear with my right ear that are now absent. It's hopefully only temporary which my physician assures me that it is. I'm glad I discovered this while I'm still young and can recover more easily though... So this goes out as a message to all you music listeners out there.. No idea why I posted this.. just felt the need to tell some people. Part 3... Moving back into my dorm sunday (woot)

Hope your loss is only temporary Ornlu. I can't help noticing that a lot of younger people are listening to rap and hip-hop through their incredibly powerful subwoofer equipped car and home stereos. I am investing lots of money into hearing-aid manufacturers because they will be reaping huge profits in the not so distant future.

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Hah tjohn I actually thought of yours when I posted this. And immediately when I saw it in the magazine. Danamo, the problem with that is that most of the people who listen to this music extremely loud at younger ages still have the ability to rebound. It's only when one has become older and the folicals.. (cillia?) that pick up the sound vibrations have become more rigid that they can become permanently damaged. Of course EXTREME volumes can actually damage these at younger ages... but it usually occurs in adults because of this rigidity factor. Older you are -> longer it takes to recover -> eventually you get to the point where they are being damaged as fast or faster than they can repair -> permanent hearing loss.

Or you can suffer from tinnitus from your teens, for no apparent reason, and have screwed up hearing for the rest of your life :)

I have a bit of hearing loss myself in the right ear, some overall loss due to aging (the higher frequencies begin to dull as you age). But the non-age-related loss began before I ever had a stereo to turn up loud. That didn't happen until college (headphones were bliss, then). I first noticed it in High School when I was a trumpet player in the marching band, my parents asked me why I was tilting my head to the side when playing. Turned out that I could hear better from one ear and was trying to "Balance" the sound. I still listen to music loud (is there any other way to listen to Metal and Hard Rock?), just not "teenaged loud" if you know what I mean.

Ugh... I just recently went to a Baluchi wedding... Very odd way of dancing, is Baluchi... Anywho, like any Arab wedding, everthing was at full volume. I mean FULL volume. As in BLARING!!!! Ugh.. I couldn't hear myself yell.. And we were dancing right in front of the speakers... I have no idea why. My ears rang for two days after that! I think they're starting to recover... At least I hope they are. I still haven't learned my lesson though... :D LONG LIVE CHRISTIAN DEATH METAL!!

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'You know it was a great gig when your ears are still ringing 3 days after the concert' I have a different hearing problem that's driving my family nuts. According to the specialist, sound is reaching my eardrums ok, but when it leaves the ear on the way to the brain - yes, I have one of those - the sound gets screwed up. This makes a lot of the sound I 'hear' just a blurr or a mess of incomprehensible noises. For example: I can't tune in to conversations in a crowded room anymore, and the tv is indistinguishable from someone sitting next to me and talking. It started to get out of hand before I had it checked out. My daughter thinks I've been lip-reading for years.

can dig that..often the one-cup mixing process gives you a comparison between headphones and live sound..mixing everything by headphones is not always a good idea, due to the various acoustic tricks you have to play (bass frequencies..you're hearing harmonics instead of fundamental, etc). I used to mix with headphones on (I can hear fine, I'm just hard of listening sometimes..;) and got some really muddy-sounding stuff..
can agree in principle about that Baluchi stuff..the loudest sound I ever heard in my life was the (amplified) call to prayer at the Blue Mosque..and that includes pole transformer shorts, Black Sabbath and Deep Purple concerts, and dump truck clutch mistakes..;)

Sorry to hear of your problems Ornlu but you'll be pleased to know I've got tinnitus and my doc says I'm just at that age, so I'll be deaf as a doornail in no time at all. It has been getting more and more of a problem for me 'cos it changes in intensity and pitch, and sometimes I can hardly hear what folk are saying 8) I wish, I wish, that we never ever got to that age, which I think in numerical terms is anywhere near 40. So watch out all you young things. lol 8)

Crap I'm half way there.

catlin mc - I feel for you. I had a penpal who had tinnitus, and it sounded horrible. He was told that it was genetic, connected to being Native American.

hell..I'm almost 7 years dead..;) it's only a number..

Deaf Brycer 1 "What did you say?" Deaf Brycer 2 "Today? why it's Thursday" Deaf Brycer 3 "Thursty? I am too. Lets go get a beer!"

Lol....

Oh NO, we haven't got onto the happy hour again have we? lol 8P It can be a real pain pogmahone, but you get sorta used to it and sometimes it's quite quiet too, but not a lot. 8)

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