Attached Link: http://www.e-onsoftware.com/products/vue5/

Maybe it's just my PC but E-On's store engine is hanging when I get to the shipping options page (buying from the UK in GBP). Anyone else suffering this?

well its atleast compatible with the vue4 pro plants which means that you do get alot more plants then what vue4 esprit had. 50+ from the get go. i only wish e.on would produce some flowers and indoor plants aswell. or think of it like this, vue 5 esprit is a big step up from vue 4 esprit, so vue 5 pro will be a realy sweet ride package :) anyway, the upgrade price from vue4 esprit is so low im going to get it myself right away and if i need vue 5 pro later on when it released ill pick it up (yeah i do long for the fully featured plant editor just like you:P)

As I have vue 4 with mover 4/5 and vue 4 pro with mover 4/5! and cinema c4d current version 8.5 soon to be version 9, I think I shall wait this one out, until I see what vue 5 pro! has to offer? videodv.

Hmmm - The added features are really nice but I've got Pro now . . . can't make up my mind about a side grade since I'm sure I'll want Vue Pro 5 . . . Hmmm

Got mine ordered! You can't beat that sidegrade price from Pro...and there should be a like price from 5 to Pro5... :) But yeah, that feature list is =nice=. I wonder if that new shader system might just talk a little bit with P5?

The news I was waiting for is at the bottom of that page : "What about Vue 5 Professional? The new features of Vue 5 are currently being integrated and adapted to the specificities of the Vue 5 Professional engine and the requirements of professional users. Vue 5 Professional is expected to ship end 2004! " :)

It says that it is compatable with Vue Pro plant editor. Does that include wind effects for animation purposes do you think? Will wait to see what the Vue 5 Pro offers maybe. I think that GI will shock some of this community, that courtyard looks real enough to me. Might scare some people though! Less like a painting & more like photography, turning the whole ethos around. Rokol.

BigGreenFurryThing, it's not your PC, I'm having the same problem when trying to pre-order from the UK. Reports a fatal error, in the pull down menu for shipping. Hopefully it will be sorted soon.

Can only choose the localyokel's option, no pre-order outside US/Can. Will probably mean that once again it will be cheaper to order the full version to a US address than to get the update in Europe.

Message edited on: 09/14/2004 05:03

Cowboyuk, thanks for the reassurance. Glad it wasn't me or my PC! E-On seems to have sorted out its store problems. Placed my pre-order this morning, 14/09, 1100 UK-BST = UTC/GMT+1 or 0500 "Renderosity time".

Thanks for the hint! I'm just wondering what you guys should pay for shipping? To Germany with UPS it would be 25,- Euros, which is quite a lot for a little box IMHO. I won't be going for Vue5 myself because I'll wait for Vue Pro 5 to arrive. ;)

To here (Italy) it's too 25 for "normal" UPS (faster UPS is 50!). But what's worse, is that the 25 for the shipping are added to the 99 (sidegrade from Pro) before the VAT is calculated, so unfortunately the total to pay is about 150. :-( But - what the heck, it's still a damn good price for all those features! And - me too have Pro, but I am already suffering for the two weeks that still have to pass to get to Sept. 30, never in my life I would have been able to wait until Year's end (that's THREE months) without being able to use the Global Illumination and HDRI and.... ;-)

That's kinda the way I look at it, Orio. Not to mention getting a head start on beating the glitches out of the new RenderCows...

Does anyone know if Vue5 is going to ship on a Hybrid Mac/Windows CD like Vue 4 was? I generally use a Mac, but occasionally I have to work on a PC... Regards, Paul

Paul, not sure but the ordering process asks you to specify either Mac or Windows upgrade. Why not contact E-On: my experience is they're pretty good with sales queries.

Message edited on: 09/15/2004 03:32

Thanks, that was my next step, but I find that usually I can get the same answer here. When I ordered Vue4 it was also separate windows/mac, but it still came on Hybrid... I'll check with eon and post back... Regards, Paul

My guess is it is still a hybrid, and they want to find out how many of each type for marketing reasons, amoung others.

Yep, that is what I thought. I asked e-on and the responded that it will ship on a Hybrid with MAc/PC versions... I like it! Paul

Will the sidegrade offer be indefinite? I hope so as I don't want to decide on Vue5 until I see the specs for Vue 5 Pro. Hopefully they'll have a comparison chart. Some of the things in Vue Pro 4 are hard to live without, so I imagine Vue5 will be missing some of those and therefore I'd wait.

Parametric mapping, as I understand it, means mapping a texture to the UV map of an object. This is the only sort of mapping that Poser 4 understands, and Vue has it already or it wouldn't be able to texture Poser figures. However, it may be the case that you can't use parametric mapping in Vue on a Vue object like a cube, as opposed to an imported mesh. I have to say I find the texture mapping in Vue a bit confusing.

If I understand your explanantion of parametric mapping, Vue 5 will (must?) have some kind of UV mapping function??? Guess we'll have to wait and see. :-)

Texture mapping in Vue is confusing ar first. However, I found it easier (less hard?) with practice and by viewing materials construction as a set of production steps

1. create colour + function + filter
2. create bumps + function + filter
3. add attributes like reflections, highlights, etc.
4. adjust "aesthetics": scale, orientation, mapping

Steps 1 -3 dictate the characteristics of the material itself.
Step 4 alters the material relative to the object to which it's applied and the scene in which that object is placed.

The whole process is iterative. Revisiting settings is necessary to get something just right for a particular composition.

That's my approach anyway!

1 - 3 I can handle; it's figuring out what Vue means by the different mapping modes that has me confused. Suppose I have a cube and a square texture. I want the texture to appear once on each side exactly. Then I want it to appear four times on each side exactly. I know how to do it in Bryce but I haven't figured it out in Vue yet.