Daz has a poll and want to know what us poser users want as their priority... I say supporting the current version of Poser is quite important, and so far 30% of the votes agree! Vote for P5 in '04 To heck with Bush AND "Lurch" ;)

Agreed. Poser should be made Master of the Universe! :] Fish

By the Power of GraySkull!

Wouldnt it make more sense to see what changes the Shade people make to poser 6. Who knows, maybe poser5 stuff may not work the same anymore. Then it would all be work for nothing. Personally I prefer to see how far they can push daz studio

I'd be surprised to see Poser 6 get released before next summer.. and that's almost a year or so away. With CL's track record, that means we'll see it patched to stability in about 2 years, and that's MUCH too long to "wait and see" what will be in Poser 6. Supposedly, they are going to build off P5, not P4, so P5 support will actually be "base" P6 support.

"I'd be surprised to see Poser 6 get released before next summer" It would probably take that long to get products updated to P5 (neither of these companies are that fast LOL) I am sure that P6 would be based on P5 and enhanced...that would make sense. But it is what enhancements they make that may be worth waiting for...because that could stuff that could be added into the content. But then, I dont have P5, so what do I know LOL Rawn

I wasn't thinking of trying to retro fix all the old Daz content for P5.. I'd just like to see newly released product tested and made working in P5. The whole "Girl Vs Crosstalk clothing issues" thing was just a mess. You can't make next gen figures, and rely on people having an old version of an app around for it to work. Course, i WOULD like to see the Millenium Dragon, with P5 displacement and proper P5 bumps made available...

"Who knows, maybe poser5 stuff may not work the same anymore." It will. Poser 6 is not going to introduce any significant changes to Poser 5, although they have said there would be a couple extra features. The focus is on getting all those niggling things to work right. Based on the last survey, I think we'll see improvements to the animation structure, enhancements to the hair and cloth rooms, possibly some additional shaders, and (praying) some lighting enhancements. "I'd be surprised to see Poser 6 get released before next summer.. and that's almost a year or so away." Quite possibly. "You can't make next gen figures, and rely on people having an old version of an app around for it to work." Exactly. Unless, of course, you intend to declare that app dead and develop your own with the intent of only creating the next gen figures for it. Then you could not worry about the things that make life hard in the other app and focus on making the best figures you possibly can, regardless of what your prinicpal customer base desires. After all they'll follow you wherever you go. Please note that aside from excerpts, all statements above are made by a delusional psychopath with a penchant for drama and no relationship with either company, and have no bearing on reality whatsoever.

CL has already stated more than a few times that P6 isn't going to have a whole lot of new candy, but be more a stabilization and expansion of function in the current app type of release. Of course that ignores all the goodies in Firefly and the shader system that just needs to be enabled to work... ;) And it has reached the point where P5 users are there in large enough numbers to rock the house. And they are pretty much being roundly ignored, save for a few who have been creating some nice stuff (HMann and Nerd come to mind instantly, as does PhilC...). DS is still beta, and even if it weren't, there would have to be modules written and paid for before many of the functionality levels that Poser possesses now could be realized. Someone with a large enough team could pretty easily steal DAZ place...or at least a large chunk of it...with P5 specific items.The first person who figures out a utility that will convert the old P4 texturecolor control settings to the P5 shader system will have a winner on their hands, for instance. Dynamic cloth, while having its own peccidilos, also completely avoids the whole issue of crosstalk, and the building dislike for having to buy the same clothes for half a dozen different meshes.

ynsaen wrote: ...."After all they'll follow you wherever you go." No, they won't :) and that supposition is the basis for a lot of bankruptcy's. Hope you don't really believe that. Newbies may follow blindly in the beginning, but they're not newbies for long.

Mat Pose Edit already DOES convert P4 textures to P5, and it's free. There's REALLY no excuse to not at LEAST have P5 mats with product now. Adding dsplacement and such is icing on the cake.

movida, um, it's me, ynsaen. ;)

ynsaen: Hi there bg I knew it was you and figured you were being facetious lol

What's needed in P6 is a fundamental rethink of how the program operates. The UI was just about tolerable for a posing tool, but cannot be taken seriously for a complete scene rendering tool. I think CL may have realised this now.

I don't really have that much issue with the interface, now that I get their "take" on it. I do have issues with it not supporting opengl and 3d video card tech, and the bugs that still remain, and the firefly problems with displacement mapping.

umm... Where's the poll? I can't find it.

Attached Link: http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=83785#83785

Thanks!

Please take content paradise out of poser 5, thank you Oh and please make poser 6 faster then poser 4.

did you know that the next version of Bryce will be open G/L and you'll have the abilty to pose charecters in there just like in poser.. add animtion to that. and we can say bye,bye poser...like I feel like waiting 1 year for P6.. if i can get better lighting, open g/l, trees, atmosphere,moutians, water, and the abilty to pose my characters in bryce in less than 3 months.. why wait... poser is done... it had a nice run... but unless it can come out with a significant release in the next couple of months.. daz studio with bryce will takeover..

Where did you read that we'll be able to pose figures in the 5.5 bryce release? I never read that anywhere.. I just read that it would have more poser compatibility.

Attached Link: http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=8259&start=0

I totally missed that. Thanks for reposting it. I wonder what they intend for DS then? If Bryce will be able to pose figures, why even bother developing DS any longer?

I can do minor(X,Y,Z axis) Posing in Vue already....I've brought in stuff in & have had clothes fly off...parts get twisted...of course all my fault..not the proggies at all.

I wonder, if they mean something similiar....

Not enough info given at all :( That said I highly doubt...Bryce will be able to conform clothes & all that....No way has Daz had time at this stage to turn Bryce into Poser so to speak.... Of Course thats IMHO.

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imagine if they did.... that would really shake things up...

There's another post about this.. Bryce will be able to call up Daz Studio, and it can be used to repose the figures n such. So DS becomes a "pose room" of Bryce5.5...

Where is the poll?

The link is higher up in the thread.. ;)