Attached Link: http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/data/2004/10/11/20041011_065204.htm

Wish they'ed credited me though...

Cest la vie'

Daniel

Yeah, you're right about the credit. The image is awesome.

that was a great image

That is so exciting! Great image of him to!

Very cool image indeed. That image is circulating around the net. Seen it in several places now.

Put credit lines on your work, even if it's other people's characters. I've sent a polite email to both Drudge and the archive reminding them it's your work: "http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/data/2004/10/11/20041011_065204.htm While the likeness and the character belong to Reeve's estate and DC respectively, that image is the work of Daniel Scott Gabriel Murray. His website is here: http://www.alpc.com/ He is flattered that you use his work but wishes that it would be credited." If we have zero tolerance for Russian websites treating our work like wallpaper clip art, American websites (which should be expected to understand copyright issues) need to be equally aware. Before anyone flames me here, understand that the above could have been MUCH less diplomatic. Daniel's work is the kind that if I had no scruples I'd steal. Protecting each other is a nonpartisan issue.

From what I've read, the Drudge Report has ripped off other people as well - posting pictures taken by a columnist with minor Photoshop changes, for example.

I'd send him a letter admonishing him for using your work without permission and copy CNN, MSNBC and a few of the wire services. Who knows, you might get a bit of exposure and he might learn not to take what's not his.

I don't see a pic when I go there so he must have listened and taken if off? Marque

duanemoody - "Daniel's work is the kind that if I had no scruples I'd steal." I know what you mean. I dream of talent like his.

It's still there this morning.

Hmmmm...I was just thinking, you could file a DMCA copyright violation claim with his ISP. Daniel you could become known as the man who shutdown his website! ROFLMAO at the thought, that would be poetic justice.

My thought on this goes something along thes lines: Many people clip out an image they like from Rosity and send it to one or two friends in an email attatchment like a postcard. The friend(s), not knowing the source, likes it too, and passes it along. The internet snowball effect happens, and within a day copies of the image are planetwide, including newsrooms and other websites. Moral of the story? If you don't want your art replicated worldwide without your name attached, put a watermark or a signature on your posts here. I'm not saying any of this is a good thing -- copyright IS important and valuable -- it's just that you have to personally defend it if you really want to keep it, out here on the lawless frontier of cyberspace. It's against the law to steal a car... but you lock your door anyway. I think this is all mostly done relatively innocently by folks who just don't savvy the concept of copyright. Kinda like what happened with the brand name "Kleenex"; They tried to make everyone else call their products "facial tissue" (and legally other companies do) but everyone still asks for "a kleenex" to blow their nose on, despite what brand it really is, because the name got too popular to regulate. This particular image would be especially hard to sue anyone over since our guy Gabriel who made the (very cool by the way) image didn't really have DC comics and or Christopher Reeve's estate's rights to the likeness to start with... Superman is sort of psuedo-public domain by the same type of "Kleenex" brand syndrome mentioned above. - - -

Matt Drudge should know better, though, servo. He's run a website for years. Get him, Daniel.

Okay, so I wasn't being a prick for bringing this to their respective attentions. Interestingly enough I got a response yesterday from the webmaster of drudgereportarchives.com:

Thank you for your message. The image actually doesn't live on our servers, it lives on Drudge's. See for yourself by checking the img tag, it points to http://www.drudgereport.com/cr.jpg

Matt Drudge's email address is drudge@drudgereport.com

Once the image has been removed from that server, it will be removed from the link you sent below.

Hope that helps,

Rick

So far, the Screech lookalike in the porkpie hat has yet to acknowledge my email. Perhaps when he and Ann Coulter are finished cybering each other (and comparing the size of their Adams' apples) he could be so kind... Message edited on: 10/25/2004 23:04

I didn't need the image of Coulter/Drudge interbreeding, thanks. He probably won't acknowledge it, though. DrudgeArchives isn't affiliated, I believe; they keep his stuff around because he's so often wrong. :) He's the new standard by which yellow journalism is measured.

Is Drudge really the standard? Gee, the New York Times and CBS News will be awfully relieved to hear that. It'll take some of the heat off of their having to fire people for making up stories and doing biased TV segment political hitjobs based on unchecked falsified documents. You may have found a way to save Dan Rather's flagging career! (No liberal vs. conservative hatemail, please -- this is just some friendly inside-joke teasing between me and rowan_crisp, acknowledging our extremely laughably opposite views.) Regarding the Superman image, I only point out again that the main issue is that Daniel's artwork is based on an actor who likeness he doesn't own, and a character icon of whom the copyrights he also does not own. He did do a very nice ancillary derivative work, to which he owns some limited rights (to at least acknowledgement) for his artistic effort, but legally, suing anyone over its use (especially on a news oriented site) would be a tremendously uphill battle. That's all I was saying -- not defending Drudge or anyone else per se. This is especially true without Daniel having watermarked or signed the image to place his own limited copyright claim on the picture and his placing it publically on the internet. The press uses short movie images, stock stills, and short cound clips from copyrighted works all the time under the 1st Amendment wording that specifically allows for limited reproduction for the purposes of parody, education, and news-related works. Reeve's death is a headline event, & that makes all images of him more-or-less fair game for the press under these auspices. Yes, they should have tracked down and acknowledged the image source. But if each of us had a nickel for every time all the major news organizations failed to provide the source of an internet photo post, we could stack them to Mars. If you still wanna sue, hey, go for it. It seems sadly to be the american way these days, and it'll probably make a lot of lawyers on all sides very happy. Again, in closing -- please no flame wars -- I'm just commenting here for point-counterpoint purposes and not trying to assault anyone here personally. I think Daniel's image is great, and I think he should definitely have gotten credit for it, and it's sad that he did not. I just think making a big deal over it would just make for richer trial lawyers, which both the left and the right should mutually work against in our hyper-litigious society --- IMHO. We could feed the world with money saved by people being nice to each other and settling things out of court instead of clogging the justice system with "you did me dirty so let's wager our life savings on a legal wrestling match" type lawsuits. Play nice--Peace. (And by the way, I think Ann Coulter's very attractive... it's not logical to cast aspersions on people's looks because you hate their politics... Although I'm man enough to admit I'm guilty of hypocrisy somewhat in this area since I think Al Franken is the freakiest looking guy in the universe --except for Carrot Top, naturally.)

Al Franken isn't that attractive to me. But, really - Ann Coulter is incredibly unappealing to me and she was before I knew what her politics were. Something about the hyperanorexic look combined with the way she holds her mouth. And yes - now that I know what her politics are, I cheered when I saw the footage of her getting smacked in the gob with pies. Then I rewound, and watched it again, and again, and again... :) (By the way - I don't excuse CBS or the NYT for their yellow streaks. I've been anti-big-media for a long time, which is one of the reasons I'm so pro-indymedia. They're all yellow when it comes to their paychecks.)