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Subject: Project Kaimira: The Next Stage Of Evolution


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Seraphira ( ) posted Sat, 06 November 2004 at 6:06 PM · edited Fri, 29 November 2024 at 1:03 AM

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Hello everyone, You've might be wondering where i been all this time, but my dears I am back with a deep dark secret i'v been working on for 4 months. Project Kaimira is the long awaited and the largest project i never tackled in short this will be a challage but i welcome it whole heartedly. DayDreaming: For the last year I daydreamed about creating a realistic human in every detail including reporductively. For a long time i felt so limited to do 3d renderings with daz's and other model resources that missed something. From that point on the idea of Kaimira was born. Stage 1: The Drawing board: Well first thing i needed to do was gather information in secret of course, a big project like this needs to be done covertly, just incase Shit happens. :) Pardon my french. First i started by studying the human body and interal organs, newly designed eyes and internal mouth so we're not restricted on lip movements and etc. If she wanted to pull her up down and out to show the other side of her labret, or really give that pouty lip. here's the view of our darling girl To be continued....


Seraphira ( ) posted Sat, 06 November 2004 at 6:13 PM

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I am back again. but with more treats and and views. Stage 2: Drawing production: First off we need to create the look of Kaimira and how she would appear to people, how whould people react to different facial structures and features, as well same with the body and what we should add more to create that realistic tone and surpass other models at the same time. The price as well was the big issue, we wanted to still keep it accessible to a wide range of people with a lower cost. So then we started drawing the templates using 2d and photo graphic resources and still keeping in the limits within poser programs such as poser 4 and poser 5. Drawing grids highways in sorts to keep things neat and clean. Here's another view. to be continued.....


Tamela.J. ( ) posted Sat, 06 November 2004 at 6:14 PM · edited Sat, 06 November 2004 at 6:21 PM

Really looking wonderful Bastila!! Im happy for you that you've finaly undertaken this project. We have talk bout it lots. Im excited to see more!

Congratulations!! :O) Bastila!

Message edited on: 11/06/2004 18:21


philebus ( ) posted Sat, 06 November 2004 at 6:16 PM

Well, I'm puzzled but want to know more. I'm sure whatever this is, it will have been worth the wait. Nice to here you're back!


Seraphira ( ) posted Sat, 06 November 2004 at 6:37 PM

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Once again I am back with more information: Kamira will be the forth front in realistic and dynamic custom poser figure, built from the ground up. Stage 3: features and Morph product and planning: What should we provide in morphs and other features that are new and fresh and reaches the bounderies with poser without breaking it. The range of morphs for both, gental area's, body and facial ranges in the 600 to 800 morph mark, unfortantly the number of morphs are still not set in stone. Getting into the movement: I wanted to create kaimira with a wide range of movments with fully supported mimic ready, and walk designer ready, also as well we wanted to introduce ERC to the project. Thoughts on how to create a realistically vein system for Kaimira will be a challage in sorts, talks where about to actaully put the vein system directly into the model where other thoughts to do it by VIA Bump maps. to be continued....


Seraphira ( ) posted Sat, 06 November 2004 at 6:51 PM · edited Sat, 06 November 2004 at 6:52 PM

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Stage 4: Plans Of Offering full support:

I thought about how will people be able to customize kaimira to suit their needs not just with one look and feel. I wanted her to change to every persons desire and need. We also wanted to provide a full arsenal of clothing, hair, poses, and textures for both body skin inter-changable eye, blush, lipsticks with clicks of a button. I hated when i had to change the makeup and being stuck with the wrong kind of blush with eyeshadow and the lip stick made me feel so limited. Now that will be the time for that change.

Here's this another view of the facial shot of Kaimira. Details are still small at this point of the first pass of detail.

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Seraphira ( ) posted Sat, 06 November 2004 at 7:06 PM

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here is the side view of Kaimira's starting of kaimira's bone structure of the face. The lips, nose, eyeballs, and etc still need to be modeled. I will continue to give you all updates as the project moves forward. This is the the start of Kaimira's Design dairy. to be conintued...


Seraphira ( ) posted Sat, 06 November 2004 at 7:09 PM

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Behind the mask: Here's a full screen shoot of the work area of kaimira. She is being modeled totally in 3d studio max 5.1 with brazil R/S 1.2 As you can see mesh cage as it's being constructed. There's still tons to do as i move forward with her modeling processes. Here's the last view for now. I will post more soon. Cheers Seraphira. To Be Continued.


Seraphira ( ) posted Sun, 07 November 2004 at 1:52 AM

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hi everyone here's an update, i finished most of her lips as well defined her lips more and tweeked the ridges of her brows and the out lining of her corners of her eyes. here's the goods.. Sera


Seraphira ( ) posted Sun, 07 November 2004 at 1:54 AM

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Now she's actually starting to look like a human. It's gonna be sweet once her head is finished. :) I wanted to finish most of her head by tommrow. that would be even sweeter. If you have any comments please let me know or something about her face seems odd. Seraphira


Seraphira ( ) posted Sun, 07 November 2004 at 1:55 AM

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I will be putting in the corners of the eyes and etc once her head is completely modeled. I will post more treats as they come in to keep u updated. Cheers all XOXOX Seraphira


The3dZone ( ) posted Sun, 07 November 2004 at 11:13 AM

bookmark... Looks wonderful so far :0) The3dZone

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Seraphira ( ) posted Sun, 07 November 2004 at 3:44 PM

I am glad you like her sweety. :D I did some adjustments to her upper lip so it doesn't seem so flat and some modification of her cheek bones. XOXO Seraphira


Momcat ( ) posted Sun, 07 November 2004 at 7:32 PM

bookmarked ::^_^::


Morris ( ) posted Sun, 07 November 2004 at 8:39 PM

Well those lips are gorgeous! Looking forward to seeing more!


Spanki ( ) posted Mon, 08 November 2004 at 9:51 AM

Nearing the end of my own similar project, I can appreciate the enormity of the task that lies in front of you... she looks great so far - good luck!

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Seraphira ( ) posted Mon, 08 November 2004 at 11:35 AM

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hi sorry about the poor quality of the image something went wonky when i optimized the image. Doh! hi everyone, I'v been hauling some major ass on the project i stopped my other projects for now to work on Kaimira project. I'v been doing some render and lighting tests on the mesh to see if there was any faults or errors the model might have. I am still not happy with her nose Arghhhh :S Her forehead still needs to be fixed a bit, I am still not happy with her jaw line. :S There's still alot to be done in detailing of her face adding more details in key areas I plan to start on her neck. Sera


Seraphira ( ) posted Mon, 08 November 2004 at 11:38 AM

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sorry about the image as i said before something went wonky with the image optimization. :S I did some exensive lighting tests and every seems alright so far. I will most more updates as they happen Cheers. XOXO Sera


Evchen76 ( ) posted Mon, 08 November 2004 at 12:38 PM

Sera sweety u are so good!!! hugs


ChuckEvans ( ) posted Mon, 08 November 2004 at 3:24 PM

Interesting...


kusanagi73 ( ) posted Mon, 08 November 2004 at 6:29 PM

It looks wonderful Sera. ^_^


PapaBlueMarlin ( ) posted Tue, 09 November 2004 at 10:53 AM

She has an interesting and fresh look :)



oddboots ( ) posted Tue, 09 November 2004 at 5:23 PM

Very cool project - looking forward to seeing how she turns out! :)


Seraphira ( ) posted Wed, 10 November 2004 at 2:15 AM

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hi everyone, I am back again with more updates. For me being such a nickpick has it draw backs at times. The areas that still needs to be revised, - under the chin - corners of the mouth - jaw - Nose tip - brow slope - lacrimals - neck - eyelids - mouth gap I want her just right, even if it takes 6 months to a year LOL! I'v been working on new ideas never done before with any model, and you're just gonna have to wait and see you're gonna love it! Seraphira


Seraphira ( ) posted Wed, 10 November 2004 at 2:19 AM

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I am back again! Muwhahahah! >:D I have toned down her cheeks a bit and fixed some key areas, I felt she look to alienish and i wanted her to look realistic. She still needs alot of work, Once i start working on her ears I can do more. That will be next after i fix the stuff on the list above. Seraphira


umutov ( ) posted Wed, 10 November 2004 at 4:20 PM

Looking top quality hun. You really are pushing the limits of your modeling skills. It's great to see your work and wonderful progress.


templargfx ( ) posted Wed, 10 November 2004 at 9:27 PM

Wholly molly that is cool! wow, umm, lost for words.... um WOW realism is what your going for, and realism is what you are making!

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Seraphira ( ) posted Thu, 11 November 2004 at 6:48 PM

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hi everyone. :) I am back and I do have a screen shot of Kaimira's ears they are still under construction and still lots need to be done. :) But here's a view anyways. Sera


kobaltkween ( ) posted Thu, 11 November 2004 at 7:06 PM

nice! i love how she looks. lots of realism, and she doesn't look vicky.



Seraphira ( ) posted Thu, 11 November 2004 at 8:22 PM

lol I hope she doesn't look like vicky! :D teehee thank you so much Cobalt. :) You guys wanna laugh? LOL! ok here's what's funny as i am using photo resources on how the ear looks and as i am shaping the ear I touch my own to see how the ridges and shape of the ear are. :) lol funny it works though too. I plan to have her ear done by tonight :D then i put the ears on her head. From then I was still debaiting after when i finish her ears i should start on her body, but part of me says finish her head completely :D


Xena ( ) posted Thu, 11 November 2004 at 8:25 PM

bookmark :)


kusanagi73 ( ) posted Thu, 11 November 2004 at 8:56 PM

She does not look like Vicky. Vicky is disgusting, and your model looks very nice.


Seraphira ( ) posted Fri, 12 November 2004 at 2:36 AM

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hi I am back again. Now I am finished her ears and joined them with her head, but her head still needs more work as i add her eyesockets and inner eyelids. Then after that is the inside of the mouth. I will post again in about 20 mins I am dire need of a smoke :P XOXOX Seraphira Here's some tasty treats more renders! :D


Seraphira ( ) posted Fri, 12 November 2004 at 2:57 AM

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hi i am back, This is what she looks like with her head almost completed I should be doing the eyebrows soon. :) Let me know what you all think of her. Peace... Seraphira Ps. is there anything odd about her face that doesn't seem right? voice it now so I can make her better! :D


Xena ( ) posted Fri, 12 November 2004 at 3:28 AM

She's looking excellent so far Seraphira :) Hope you can keep all that lovely detail in the ears in Poser! I'll have to make earrings to show them off if you can ;) I don't know if it's just me, but the bottom of her top lip seems to make her look as though she's slightly snarling. Perhaps because the lip pulls up either side, instead of being more of a slightly curved line. Make any sense? It might just be a hard look to morph out of her for differing faces. (or I could still be in 'Build a Sim' mode LOL)


Seraphira ( ) posted Fri, 12 November 2004 at 8:01 AM

LOL! whhooo u go girl I am sim fan too. yes you will be able to change her clook completely if u wanted too with tons of morphs! Apperently from what i'v been told that it wasn't a very good idea that Kaimira shouldn't be able to wear V3 clothing because of potental lawsuit from daz or something I will post on the copyright forum to find out all the answers there. I rather have no problems copyright issues rather then tons of them if kaimira can wear V3's clothing. But I will be creating her own clothing series, she will have everything that she will ever need. Seraphira Ps I rather be safer then sorry, you know. :)


karanta ( ) posted Fri, 12 November 2004 at 5:09 PM

Excellent work Seraphira :)


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Seraphira ( ) posted Sat, 13 November 2004 at 5:58 AM

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Hi everyone, I am back with new innovations never seen before, Kaimira is now finely taking shape and now I am working on the inside of her mouth. Thing that you must realise that the outside is just important on the inside, Here's the inside look of kaimira's mouth. As you can see the lips are attatched to the outside mesh making it as one. the gums and tounge will be placed in will be molded into one mesh. The teeth however will be not be joined right into the mesh because you can remove or even have the wisdom teeth grow in. :D This will be a medicailly actirate mouth. you'll see when it's done but for now here's the preview of what's to come. Please note that this is a WIP model and there's still lots to be done. Seraphira


jaybutton ( ) posted Sat, 13 November 2004 at 7:28 AM

Beautiful work! When you first began this thread I thought this was a very ambitious task and that you had a lot of work ahead of you. You are doing an incredible job! Keep up the good work! Jay



RealitysPoison ( ) posted Sat, 13 November 2004 at 8:50 AM

This is looking wonderful...bookmark!


Seraphira ( ) posted Sun, 14 November 2004 at 2:11 AM

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hi everyone, back yet again with more updates, Since then i'v been working on her gums and and teeth, here's the first look at her teeth so far. :) Seraphira


umutov ( ) posted Sun, 14 November 2004 at 5:20 AM

Awwwww BITE ME!!!!!! Hun, the idea and the process of making the idea become real are in such a harmony!!! You go girl, Enough of the MONOPOLY Daz3d has made with V3. I'm sick of her!!! :)


kusanagi73 ( ) posted Sun, 14 November 2004 at 6:46 PM

Id have to say it looks fairly well proportioned. Everything is in the right place and looks to be the proper size and form. Your modeling skills have grown so much from when I first saw your work.


Seraphira ( ) posted Mon, 15 November 2004 at 1:03 AM

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Hi everyone, wow thank u guys for the awesome comments! I have alot of work a head of me. :) But that's a good thing because more detail, more better model. Kusanagi, wow thank you so much for the comment I haven't realized that people followed my work. :O I still have alot to learn about modeling, but i must say honey modeling is addictive! well for me that is i keep telling myself ok one more hour then i look at my clock and 6 hours pasted. LMAO! About Teeth, u'll see how the teeth are comming in nicely now i am working on the gums, which is hard process, then i will be adding more details to the gums and roof of the mouth and then adding the tongue and other extras, so if u want to play dentist by all means my darlings! :D Here's a quick preview so far. Seraphira


Seraphira ( ) posted Mon, 15 November 2004 at 11:19 AM

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YahhoooO! The modeling of the mouth is completed!!! YAhghoooo boy i am glad that's done! I'd have to say modeling the mouth and the ears where the worst part of Kaimira so far. Here's some views of the mouth before being inserted into kaimira's head and connecting all the verts to the inner walls of the mouth. Sera


Seraphira ( ) posted Mon, 15 November 2004 at 11:29 AM

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One more shot, I might fix a few things with the mouth I see a few things are picking at me. Still a few things to do now with kaimira's head. Fix the small gab in kai's lips so you can't see the teeth peeking through at u :P, Next I will be doing the eyebrows and eyeballs. The eyesockets are already completed, just a few more things and i will be starting on Kai's Body, now i am gonna have some fun with that! Plus when i do get to the genital area which will be highly detailed and realstic. Also she will have nice nails too, the ablity change different nail types easily with morphs from square, oval, pointed, longer, curved and many more. Nails will be done in different manner with specially design transmaps to give a semi transparent as real nails do, and a comination with other goodies like gel and arglic nails. Pardon my spelling i'm kinda beat I just spend 22 hours on Kaira's modeling and extras Running around taking digital photos for kai :) I should be finished her head sometime tommrow I hope. After when all the modeling is completed it's time for material Zones and ID's. Here's the last view. XOXOXO Seraphira


kobaltkween ( ) posted Mon, 15 November 2004 at 4:44 PM

so, so beautiful. and please don't change the lips; i don't think they look like they're snarling. i think they look like they have the curve most women have (if a bit emphasized), unlike the weird reversal (ballooned out sides, middle indented) you see in so many v3 characters and in plastic surgery recipients. i can't imagine how it would infringe on copyright if she could wear v3 clothes if you didn't use any daz product as a base mesh, but i'd prefer a different body anyway. i mean, yamato has already shown us how to stick one figure's head on another's body. i'd rather have better joint parameters, a shorter torso (i can dream), more realistic hips and legs, etc. than access to an endless supply of skimpy armor and fetish wear. frankly, your clothing products have been so superior (and so usefully everyday) that i don't see much of a problem if you convert what clothes you've already created to her and add in a pair of slacks/jeans, a jacket, and a dress. oh, and of course the ubiquitous catsuit. not all at once, though. it would be very bad to burn you out.



philebus ( ) posted Mon, 15 November 2004 at 5:20 PM

Wow! Really, wow! Astonishing detail and a very natural shape to the face. I can't wait to see more.


Seraphira ( ) posted Mon, 15 November 2004 at 5:54 PM

I won't change her lips I love her lips too, She will have a catsuit as well, with tons of clothing, textures, poses, hair, everything that she needed, hopefuly and maybe she will have her own section. But did u hear the news with this new policy????! with this new cenorship. I will post some more images later on tonight. >:D I thin people are starting to catch on now, i had serval requests to texture Kaimira's base texture set. :D sigh my son is realllly cranky i gotta go see what's up


Momcat ( ) posted Mon, 15 November 2004 at 8:33 PM

This is truly beautiful. The only fault I can find with it is that it is too perfect. that is what is lacking here for true realism. There seems to be no asymmetry at all.


kusanagi73 ( ) posted Mon, 15 November 2004 at 10:56 PM

I remember you showing me something of yours a while ago in chat. I think it was a nice looking sofa. We also had a nice time talking about lights. Oh, by the way. What is the new policy you're referring to?


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