Im a bit disappointed about the poor response i get when i have uploaded an image. Not because of lack of comments. I just want people to look at the pics im satisfied with. Its just my standard crappy sci-fi pics that seems to be interesting, not the ones that i put some thought in. I refuse to put naked chics in my images. Is that what you must do to get some response? Or is my thumbnails not enough interesting? Or maybe just poor standard is the reason? I know im not good at commenting other works, because of lack of time. But at least i take a look. What do the rest of you think?

just took a look through your gallery, your work is indeed pretty good. there's a whole equation to when and how you can get the largest number of hits to your work.

1. become a regular on this forum. post links to your work when you're finished with them.

2. try uploading images at different times of the day, see what brings you the most hits.

3. make the thumbnails interesting. you can tell a LOT about the render from the thumb. including naked women in the thumbnail will make your viewer number skyrocket =)

4. and yeah, join the club. bryce might well be turning into a niche market for poser 4 artists who can't afford p5 and/or general start-up 3d artists. because bryce is now daz, a lot of people will showcase nudity from now on.

Edit: Oh, and yeah, don't get me wrong. DON'T succumb to the whole nudity genre if you don't feel like it. By joining the club I'm referring to joining the PPOOPUNVIATWAS club =)

Drac (People Pissed Off at Other People Using Naked Vickies in a Temple with a Sword.)

Message edited on: 11/13/2004 12:56

Don't give into the "Dark Side" Stoner! Drac is right, you do have a wonderful gallery. And all the suggestion he made are good ones. Do you leave comments on other peoples images? What you give to others will be returned three fold. Leaving comments and chitchatting on the forum, without any expecting anything in return, is a good start. I'm not in the same league as some of these guys so therfore I keep my Bryce images somewhere else untill the day I feel "somewhat" on the same ground as the rest. But I think you more than measure up to the task. Chin up! Just my 2 worth. :)

Stoner,
You've been a member for almost a year, been posting since June this year, and I don't know how long you've been using Bryce.
I went through your gallery and was quite impressed.
What I noticed was:
Great concept & imagination.
An eye for perspective, Composition, & color.

My suggestions:(only because it's what the rest of us do to improve)
Read the tutorials. (nuts & bolts)
Ask questions here in the forum. (so many know-it-alls in here)
Browse the galleries. (Inspiration for Creation, ThumbNails, & Presentation)
Check the homepages of some of these better artists.(follow the links to other artists that they deem talented)

You've got a great start, Just keep practicing & Learning.
And....don't be shy, You've got some great teachers here.

ICM
Rod

@ Kimpe: Your work is right up there, & your fractal stuff is amazing.

Message edited on: 11/13/2004 15:41

Aye, I'm totally with Drac and the others on this. Sex sells, but who's buying, anyway? Our galleries don't generate money, although we can use them as portfolio or resume links of course! There are quite a few, maybe as many as 50 really decent artists in the Bryce section, Stoner. You're one of them. Don't worry about what the masses think about your artwork, it's not important. If you need an ego boost, drop in on the forums and share some secret techniques, or even just take some time to respond to other people's new techniques and Works-in-Progress. Or just tell yourself that you're awesome. Your gallery is great, don't start putting in naked women unless your scenes actually call for them. It's an integrity thing. Naked polygon-based people don't really arouse or impress me. It's much, much more difficult to cloth a Poser character properly. And like Drac said, if you want the "cool" people to see your works, drop us a thread about it. Post some WIP's, or ask about different ways to light a scene, or whatever. Lots of people do different kinds of thumbnailing, like Redinard's circular thumbs, but I've never noticed too much difference when it comes down to it. A good image is a good image, just let us know when you post a new one, and we'll try to check it out. Kimpe - I agree with ICM, feel free to post more of your unposted work, my friend...

I think the main thing is to create picture that you feel good about. Don't post to get the number of comments up. Post for yourself. Create pictures for yourself. I post with the assumption that no one will look at it and then I get a viewing and I'm happy. And yeah, like the guys said, post in the forum. That way you'll know that the good, bad and ugly (not looking at anyone in particular) will get to hear about you. Give it time. My earliest page of pictures has viewings in the 40's. Keep posting, get to know us and more and more people will get to know you.

well, sometimes you can get as many hits by 'suggesting' nudity..;) I've noticed that pictures with people in them get more hits than those without..bright color contrasts in the thumbs, suggestive titles..humor or whimsy, misdirection on the subject matter (seems like anything but honesty..;) I dunno..this comes up more often in the Poser forum..all I'd say is that you do what you're satisfied with, and keep learning..it never stops..;)

Man you have some cool renders in your gallery man,and from the looks of it you have way more "hits" than me or some of the others i have seen man.It's my opion that art comes from the artist and it's up to you what you want in your images i applaud you for no naked chicks man..I mean c'mon how many times can you pose a naked chick and make it look interesting..really.. WAR.

Yea, don't put anything in your pics just to get more comments. Just make the pics you like and hope others appreciate it. A lot has to do with who is popular (not always for artistic reasons or talent), and who is not.

just wondering who the other 49 really decent artists in the Bryce section are lol

Don't add naked chicks to your pictures. You might get more views, but the comments are weak. The picture in my gallery with the most clothed chick also has the most comments and was actually voted into the Hot20. Post in the forum. WIP's, comments, random thoughts, whatever, just get your name out there. Especially WIPs, you'll get a lot of people interested. Comment on other peoples work, they'll look at your gallery to weigh your words, and out of curiosity. Put up a post like this, I'm on my way to your gallery now...

I saw one thumb that got a lot of views. It was an extreme closeup of a forearm. The thumb looked like clevage but when you saw the whole image it was very sedate. Hormones being what they are this trick will always work on the general population. The question is, "Why do you want a bunch of comments from teenagers who will go to the playboy website as soon as they're adults and have a credit card?" If you look at most of the great artists they died before getting any recognition. If you get people to talk about your work it will mean more to you if it is a really skilled person or a good or likable person. The only way to find that out is to talk to the other people here.

PPOOPUNVIATWAS,...........wasn't he Prime Minister of India for a short time in the 1960's ?

Bryce and Poser galleries are added to more than the others so your art has to be top-notch to be noticed. Your art is abstract as well as surreal. Focusing more on one of the two, and perfecting your craft, will better define your art and create a fan base for it.

Aye, Shonner has a good point. Many of the top artists have a distinctive style, much like painters. FOr example, you can always count on OCDDoug to create a deep, texture-full, depressing or dark image. Beton always has ridiculous, beautiful characters. Mr Dodobird always has amazingly lit structures and vehicles. Hyperborea always has beautifully rendered fractal objects. That isn't to say that those artists can variate, they can do whatever they want. It's just their style, you know? No need to mimic, your style is well developed enough. Just keep rendering, and as you progress your "fame", or rather your artistic credibility, will also grow!

I comment on every image a I open up even if I can not think of something but "cool work." then I left a footprint there to let that peoson know I was there. But many times do leave a better comment that that but not all the time. Plus I took the time to open the image up so I take the time to comment even if it just two words. nudes do get the veiws I did an experment and it did go to the nude[even thouht it was the same image just done diff lol]

ps nudes not not mean you get in the hot 20 just more people looks at it . Just human nature