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Poser - OFFICIAL F.A.Q (Last Updated: 2024 Nov 13 11:02 am)
Note that the above link is referring to a service that was after paypal. Charge.com. Recommended to him by paypalsucks. Hmmm. COuld it be a force other than paypal doing this...
thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)
No "could be" about it in my opinion. I just got an e-mail now from a merchant I buy models from and they're already dropping PayPal in favor of regular credit card processing. Not that they need to -- they sell buildings not boobs. It's because: "we feel that some of their policies place unnecessary restrictions on the creative process." The change's gonna be a bit of an inconvenience to me since I prefer to use cash whenever possible (PayTaliban withdraws it from my checking account) but I'm too honked off right now to care. I don't tell these Fundie idjits how to pray, why the bloody hell should they tell me how to paint? Er, pose, er, you know what I mean.
Here in the UK it's "Paypal (Europe) Ltd" which handles our accounts, and they come onder the same system if financial services regulation as the banks. Which means that they'd be on very dodgy ground if they stopped somebody getting at their own money. Expect arguments about what "in dispute" means if they freeze somebody's account over issues such as selling alleged adult content. They're able to say they don't want somebody's business, but they're not as free to mess with the customer's money as they're reported to be in the USA.
It's really not prudery that's to blame. It's the high rate of chargebacks that come with adult material purchased online. People who buy access to porn sites later regret the purchase, especially if their wives see the charge on the bill. So they claim fraud and get a chargeback. This happens to Visa and MC, too. (Which is why DAZ can't accept those cards for annual PC memberships.) But Visa and MC also have tons of non-net transactions to help keep them afloat - all the purchases made at brick-and-mortar stores. PayPal does not.
Basically, any online pay service faces the same problems, so do not expect any PayPal alternatives to be any better. At least, not for long. They will either have to adopt policies similar to PayPal's, or they will go bankrupt under a flood of chargebacks.
My experience with the American Taliban has been that they have always taken the unstated position that corruption is evil--for anyone else. And that selling it is not immoral, just buying it, so they run the porn shops and promote coke to finance freedom. And they get the recreational coke and the state-protected brothels and their private stashes of porn. Their fundamental family value is hypocrisy, with greed hot on its tail (so to speak). And my experience with the rest of us is that most evil done to others is hard to get excited about. Put those together, and it's a Paypal world. Close your Paypal account. M
You mean after the one that says neocons are exempt? ;) Personally, I don't see any reason why the Taliban can't be absorbed into our vocabulary of metaphors. The comparison may be odious, but it is apt. There is a determined group of people in America who are attempting to turn a country once known as the beacon of enlightenment into another repressive theocracy. Their agenda is not political but cultural, and PayPal is just one manifestation of it. Perhaps you would prefer, before you make noises about conspiracy theorists in tinfoil hats, a comparison to piranha. If you fall into a school of piranha, it doesn't matter that they didn't discuss eating you and then take a vote.
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Such vehemence! Such passion! Such indignance! Now for a little bit more reading and thinking. oh, wait a sec. Sorry. Passion, vehemence, and indignant posturing tend to blind one to thought and prompt strong words. nevermind. carry on :)
thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)