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Subject: Anime Doll Sailor Suit - Gone Forever?


Zarabanda ( ) posted Tue, 27 January 2004 at 8:58 AM · edited Tue, 26 November 2024 at 3:35 PM

I recently saw a thread and noticed that Insomniaworks excellent sailor suit for Anime Doll is no longer available. Is this going to be permanent? I realize that there might have been some commercial issues regarding its likeness to a certain cartoon character, but can't there be some kind of changes made? The pics I see made with it are outstanding.


compiler ( ) posted Tue, 27 January 2004 at 12:47 PM

Insomniaworks had to take it from the MP for copyright problems. He cannot post it in the free stuff either of for the same reasons. I'd suggest you IM him to see if he has any plans on changing her.


jerr3d ( ) posted Tue, 27 January 2004 at 6:43 PM

Attached Link: school uniform

I was on my way to the store to buy it and found it was gone.

Taruru has a very nice free one available at his site.


Riddokun ( ) posted Tue, 27 January 2004 at 7:15 PM

"school" uniform and magical girl/bishoujo senshi are not too similar to make the match, when you need the second intead of the first anyway insomnia work could design a magical girl on his own problem is that animedoll popularity is dependant on anime and manga, and has few products to suppro her, and when you propse a product that relies on her origin and legacy, it is wrong.. better STOP usign animedoll and boycott it too :( afgter all, animedol is a huuuuge copyright infringmenet to a hundred of brand names/marks and series r books


Momcat ( ) posted Wed, 28 January 2004 at 8:18 AM

????You are joking, Riddokun? Magical Girl type seifuku are very similar to each other. I think if the little moon props were removed from the costume, it should be fine. Surely BSSM was not the only magical girl story that uses seifuku? I would love to see other styles of that costume too.


Dale B ( ) posted Wed, 28 January 2004 at 2:49 PM

Actually, what would be even better would be to get some references for some of those seifuku, isolate the variances, and then provide those as an accessory set to let the buyer 'roll their own'. Very few of those 'custom' attachments are unique enough to consider copyright viable, after all. For that matter, the accessories could be a free download with purchase of the Sailor Suit...maybe with length morphs on the skirt and some variance at the neckline (hey, I'm greedy.... ;) )


Momcat ( ) posted Wed, 28 January 2004 at 3:00 PM

NOt a bad idea.


Riddokun ( ) posted Thu, 29 January 2004 at 7:40 AM

yes a huge "fuku uniform construction set", this i woul buy for sure !


Dale B ( ) posted Thu, 29 January 2004 at 5:03 PM

I suspect that a lot of anime fans would. It's ubiquitous, and damned near impossible to accurately hack from just about any other clothing sets out there. That would be the Sailor Scouts, Mai the psychic girl, large swaths of Urusei Yatsura, Halfway Ranma, Kimagure Orange Road, Bible Black, far too many of the Lemon series, Noir, I wonder just how many anime seriesOAV's I can name off the top of my head Iczer 1, Devil Hunter Yohko (pick a number) Blue Seed, Arjuna, Evangelion, And with the animating materials in the P5 shader room, a lot of the transformation effects magical tags could be easily recreated..... For that matter, it Insomnia could probably get some good reference material from the Japanese Poser crowd; something as flexible as a construction kit would surely interest them!


Riddokun ( ) posted Thu, 29 January 2004 at 7:43 PM

hmm btw what abotu this product, so ? must i delete it from my HD and sto pusing it in renders ? if so i would liek a refund (though i am more intetrested in the suit than in my money in this specific case) no one ever answered that even on copyright forum.. thing was removed from RMP, but npoone ever told what good faith legal buyers of it should do :(


Momcat ( ) posted Thu, 29 January 2004 at 8:01 PM

Myself, I think it is fine. Nothing has been determined one way or the other.


Dale B ( ) posted Thu, 29 January 2004 at 8:05 PM

Ditto. So long as you are not using it to make money (ie: for your own personal usage only), then there should be no problem. And I deliberately aborted the listing. I've been a fancollector for far too many years..... :P


compiler ( ) posted Fri, 30 January 2004 at 11:31 AM

I'll keep on using it. The japanese authors have always shown a very tolerant policy towards the use of their creations : think of all these parodies/doujinshi/hentai made with the Sailor Moon team.


Riddokun ( ) posted Fri, 30 January 2004 at 5:41 PM

well the japanese authors are very tolerants, it is true, but occidental/western enteprises which had the rights of diffusion and commercial market for their creations elsewhere than in japan ae not... I am sure sailor moon "mother" (cause the author is a woman) would more gladly give her willing approval for a poser suit than for x rated doujinshis (not that she refuses or grant her approval for doujinshis or not, it is not the matter), but rosity won't... the trouble is here ! some "authorisations" do not worth anything in some contexts.


compiler ( ) posted Sat, 31 January 2004 at 5:54 AM

The problem is not with Renderosity anymore. They don't have any right on Inwomniaworks character, nor on the original creation. They refused to have it sold through their market place for reasons of their own. I think I can safely use this character in my renders (of course, if I'm wrong, I may get a sued by whoever has the rights to), and Renderosity has nothing to say in it (except refusing to host these renders).


Riddokun ( ) posted Sat, 31 January 2004 at 6:01 AM

does insomnia work would sell it again at another place ?


compiler ( ) posted Sat, 31 January 2004 at 6:24 AM

I told him to try and sell it at DAZ, since DAZ is verging on copyright infringement (the Freak for the Hulk, Swordwoman She-Freak for Xena Warrior princess, Relic Hunter for Indiana Jones), but it was just a joke ! May be you could ask him what he plans to do ?


Sarte ( ) posted Thu, 06 January 2005 at 11:47 PM

Could it be rereleased anywhere?

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Riddokun ( ) posted Fri, 07 January 2005 at 6:37 AM

he released it as freebie in one of the threads he maintained in the forums i think it was somewhere in the serie of "catsuit" related thread.. but there were so many adn they were so huge load threads...


AntoniaTiger ( ) posted Fri, 07 January 2005 at 9:23 AM

School uniforms in general are odd. The shape of the clothes is very widely used -- tailoring some special style is expensive. Basic colour schemes are widely used. My recollection is that the only really distinctive piece was the school badge. Even the necktie patterns were used by more than one school (and, in the case of my school, I later heard it matched one of the top-end English schools, as well as seeing it being used in the movie of "The Odessa File". OK, so a seifuku is not universal. You get the same use of an outdated style used for British "schoolgirls" -- Google on St Trinian's for the style, and you may be able to think of other examples. (And if anyone wants to do a St Trinians's style of school uniform, don't call it that. It's a "Traditional Enlisg Schoolgirl".)


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