#43 was my response to Chohole and had nothing to do with my prior post. It was a direct answer to her since she insisted on calling her Prime Minister the poodle. Which by all rights is her right to express her opinion just as it is my right to express mine. But if you chose to dwell on post #43 for whatever reason, fine! LOLand Bryster, who the hell is LITTLE-JIMMY-OSMOND?

He was a long-haired lover from Liverpool..........yuck!

Ehehehehhh baaah gummm! Now den lads'n'lassus, let's take't cold shawa! Woteva wud mista Drawbridge think of thee behavin laak dat? Ehehehehhh baaah gummm!

He'd probably think we was all spawny eyed parrot faced wassaks!

Disclaimer:

The views expressed in this thread are not necessarily those of Phillip Drawbridge and are posted as informational reference of the original author, one Python named John Cleese, and not as a statement of political or social views of the aforementioned Phillip Drawbridge. God bless America, God save the queen, and please let me stay, 'cause I really like it here.

Seriously though, it is widely thought that America and Americans do not have a sense of humour. I've been here a while now and I can say that this is totally untrue. It's said that Americans don't get irony, again this is untrue. I'm one of the most sarcastic people on the planet (even have an award) and (nearly) all Americans I've met have totally got that sense of humour. Even more than a lot of Brits. If any American was to take Mr Cleese's jokes as anything other than jokes, then that's a personal problem with them and does not reflect the sense of humour and extreme good will of the American people. People will always joke about the ones they love. How many wife, mother-in-law jokes are there? It's a sign of affection. Most Brits I know love America and Americans and vice-versa.

So in closing, I plead with you all to not let this thread, which was based in fun and common bonds between our nations (not just UK and USA, but all), degenerate into anything other than the light hearted thread I intended. AND finally finally, the original post has done the rounds of my American wife's friends and family before getting to me and ALL found it funny.

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My Mitchener ancestors came from Kent. Which area of England is that? How would they speak there? Jason {living in the southern part of the U.S. but not The South)

Kent is where I'm from and we don't have an accent, it's the rest of the world that does. ;-)

Well, I guess my ancesters were southern pansies. ;-)

I've hear that American news anchors need to speak like they're like from the Midwest as the Midwest is considered the most accentless area. I remember us teasing a coach in high school about his Tennessee accent. He replied, "I don't know what y'all are talking about. Y'all sound like white bread."

I like that Drawbridge..we definately don't have an accent. I can remember the first time I travelled north of the Watford gap, to Morley, just outside Leeds. They asked me if my accent was a London accent. I told them two things, one was that I didn't have an accent, and secondly they wouldn't like to walk from London to where I lived then, which was near Dartford in Kent. I've always had trouble with remembering my visa when crossing the Watford gap.

yup..it's back. This whole 'tirade' was posted..oh..about November 4th or so in 'the Den'..did a point by point rebuttal, but I'm not gonna do it again. Sounds like a mixed blessing; topless women where the news used to be, but they tax your TV for hundreds of pounds (never mind greenbacks) a year. The English do have 3 vegetables, 2 of which are cabbage. And if you non-Anglo 'futbol' fans out there thought they had to worry about English 'football ruffians' before..;) And how a Liberal party can elect a leader who's so close to Bush (whateverhappenedtoTonyBen? and the 'loony lefties'?) makes me wonder what the Conservatives have to do nowadays to 'stand out' from Labor..;) Maybe that explains the Prince's 'getup' at that party a while back..;) Niether of us are perfect, and to be honest, I had just as much fun with a Texas accent in London as the British do here.. (Pakled, working for a German outsourcing company doing business with an English Pharmaceutical company..small world..;)

Phil, please do me a favor. Call my toll free voice mail at 888-254-8802 and leave a brief message so I can hear what people from Kent sound like. On my message, you'll also hear what an Arizonan raised by an Ohioan sounds like.

What I want to know is how will this REVOCATION affect my taxes? And will we all have to learn to do that silly Cleese walk?

**And how a Liberal party can elect a leader who's so close to Bush **

pakled - 'Liberal' doesn't mean quite the same thing in the UK as it does in the US. There is a Liberal Democrat Party, which Europeans would consider sort of 'centre'. The Conservatives are traditionally right-wing, and Labour is traditionally very left-wing. Far as I can see, Labour has moved very much towards the right, and the Conservatives have started moving towards the centre. Most European governments would prob'ly be considered 'liberal' in the sense that the word is understood in the US, which is different from how the word is understood in Europe. For instance, our current government (in Ireland) is considered ultra-right-wing here, but would be considered 'liberal' or 'left' in the US. Different strokes for different folks :^))

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Ahhhh, absolutely right Pog, thanks for explaining that. Really, Ive always liked Cleese. Had seen him in many interviews and always thought he was a personable, jovial, good-natured, charming fellow, a great comedian and a good actor. But a few months ago when the American elections were going on, he was on a cable liberal political talk show where he took liberties in lambasting America and its President. Although I thought at the time that it was funny and couldnt keep from laughing I felt that it was out of character for him. It was a side of him I had never seen before then. Since then he has made several other overt satirical gestures under the same guise. After a while, one has to wonder where it is its coming from. Yesterday morning I had to leave here in a hurry since I had to visit a relative in another state whos recovering from surgery but not before making copies of both, the John Cleese piece and my retort. Thinking that perhaps I may have overstepped myself. I showed both to friends and family to get their feedback without telling them first I wrote the second piece and their response ranged from angry to indifference with the Cleese piece but most were happy about the comeback and some thought there should have been more to it. It illustrates that issues of politics and religion are tinderboxes as topics go and is why I never would initiate a thread involving any of these two volatile topics in this forum. But once posted, I reserve the right of and have no qualms about expressing my views which being independent often run contrary to popular beliefs on both sides. Oh yes Bryster, I have heard of that Liverpool fellowLOL Talking about accents, my brother and I used to go to the Florida Keys scuba diving on sunken Spanish galleons and the such. After just a week there we began to pick up this southern twang in our speech, quite unconsciously, and teased each other about it all the time. One evening we decided to have diner at this fine restaurant on Isla Morada Key. Our waitress had this cute twang thing going and my brother and I picked up on it and started to laugh remembering our episode with the accent. She realized immediately that we werent from there and asked where we were from in her twangy Floridian. When we told her we were from New York, her Floridian accent dropped and she started to chit chat how she was originally from New York also in perfect New Yorkese.

I've always been an accent leech. Two weeks in a country and I'm mistaken for a local (providing I speak the language and the demographics match up!). One St. Patty's day, I was in a San Diego pub with a buddy of mine. The pub's run by and full of ex-pats from England, Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand. On this day everyone was pretending to be Irish, including myself. Our bartender was from Dublin and before long asked me from what part of town I was from and when did I leave because he was sure to have remembered me. Meanwhile, my buddy just got back from Russia (USSR, then) and struck up a conversation with a couple of Russians. All this with copious amounts of Guinness. So I'm coming back to the bar and I'm intercepted by the bartender. This is when he asks me what neighborhood I'm from. Then he asks, "Where's your friend from, then?" "Here, locally." I said. "No, originally." "Here, locally." "Oh, 'cuz he's got the most f***ed up accent!"

Our bartender was from Dublin and before long asked me from what part of town I was from and when did I leave because he was sure to have remembered me. Nukeboy, I tink he wuz messin' wit yer head ;^)