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Subject: Bryce 3d & Digital Video {Can it be done?, I mean"Mix" the two for a video fil}


JimBobCarl ( ) posted Tue, 22 February 2005 at 8:47 PM · edited Thu, 07 November 2024 at 2:40 PM

OK, here is the deal:
I want to put some animated shot from Bryce into a .mov file and render the video.

IE: I have a shot of video ; Character looks at sky (AFTER i'm done with it)and a Tie fighter, Star destroyer, and shuttle fly overhead, and away. You may have seen Fan Films of this? How EXACTLY can I do this? Is there a tutorial for it?

BTW:

I have at my disposal:
After Effects
Photoshop
Premiere Pro
Bryce 5

He's rich, NOPE I am a teacher and I work part time after school in the Tech Dept. (wonderful toys to play with)

Anyway, can somoone help me out? OR point me in the right direction???

Message edited on: 02/22/2005 20:49


Mahray ( ) posted Tue, 22 February 2005 at 8:55 PM

Easy to do with After Effects. Just render the bryce scene against a solid colour background, then import it into aftereffects with the movie footage, and make the alpha the solid colour. Done it once, can't remember all the details.

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foleypro ( ) posted Tue, 22 February 2005 at 8:59 PM

I have one of those programs and I use Paintshop Pro...But yes you can do that animation very easy... Setup your scene in Bryce and Render the animation of your camera looking at the Ships flying overhead... Then take your other animation and Layer the two in PS... You might have to Mask out your second animation where you have your Characters...You know only have the characters showing and nothing else...


JimBobCarl ( ) posted Tue, 22 February 2005 at 9:00 PM · edited Tue, 22 February 2005 at 9:14 PM

Mahray, is working on it for me, as we speak, I will post his instructions once he is finished... If that is OK w/him.

Message edited on: 02/22/2005 21:14


Quest ( ) posted Tue, 22 February 2005 at 9:17 PM

JimBobCarl, the mystery is taken out once you know how to handle the Alpha. Regardless of what program you use, if you know how to subtract the alpha, you can substitute anything in its place. Thats the gist of it all. Not only that, but consider that you can then create a new alpha color after youve composited your first effect. Now, on top of your previous alpha composition, you can add yet another, then another and so on down the line.


foleypro ( ) posted Tue, 22 February 2005 at 9:17 PM

Yes render it like he said... Even with you characters,Have them do the Video footage in front of a Blue/Green background and then render your Bryce animation Bring the Bryce animation into AE and then you mask out the Blue/Green in your Characters Footage and Make Transparent then you OVERLAY the Footage onto your Bryce animation and combine and save as One file...


Mahray ( ) posted Tue, 22 February 2005 at 9:56 PM

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Render your movie against a solid background, I chose green. Import it into After Effects. Import your original movie (in this case a photo, because my camera is being silly), and place the rendered movie over the old one.

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Ignore the shooty dog thing.


Mahray ( ) posted Tue, 22 February 2005 at 9:58 PM · edited Tue, 22 February 2005 at 9:59 PM

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The go to the effects menu, keying, colour difference key.

Then use the eyedropper to select the green (or whatever colour it might be). When this effect is applied, it turns the green into transparent.

Message edited on: 02/22/2005 21:59

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Ignore the shooty dog thing.


Mahray ( ) posted Tue, 22 February 2005 at 10:06 PM

Attached Link: An Example

Here is a very rough example.

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Ignore the shooty dog thing.


dvd_master ( ) posted Tue, 22 February 2005 at 10:39 PM

One thing I'd think about is that you have to keep it at a good scale, MAKE SURE THE LIGHTING MATCHES, and remember that Bryce won't produce photoreaslitic results, so don't expect them.


Aldaron ( ) posted Wed, 23 February 2005 at 11:51 AM

Bryce CAN produce photorealistic results but you have to work hard at it to get them.


Quest ( ) posted Wed, 23 February 2005 at 3:50 PM

Bryce most certainly produces photorealistic effects.


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