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Subject: A question I had


DHolman ( ) posted Thu, 24 February 2005 at 6:41 PM · edited Thu, 14 November 2024 at 12:34 AM

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Okay ... been really sporadic this week as I ended up working my last night shift and I try to move my life to work the shift that I abhor with every fiber of my being ... morning shift.

Anyway, wanted to ask your guys' opinons on something.

With the Elle series added to my site, I've finally started to add my studio/location fine art nudes. Now I'm wondering if those galleries should be moved to a site of their own.

I photograph a lot of cultural events and parades and I know a lot of families surf my site and stuff. It's not an issue of "Is it porn?" It's a comfort level thing. Wondered what you thought?

Right now, I have 3 options in mind:

  1. Do nothing ... leave them where they are ... art is art.

  2. Create a seperate Web Gallery away from the main site. Probably even have a slightly different look. Sub-domained under something like "fineart.dmholman.com" for the address. And only have a link to the site from within my main site.

  3. Bury the gallery behind warnings in my site.

Just so you know, I am leaning towards #2. Would only cost me an additional $6 or so/month to do - plus time to create the new site/gallery.

What do you think?

-=>Donald


TaltosVT ( ) posted Thu, 24 February 2005 at 7:24 PM

I just took a quick look at your site. I'd say leave it as is. You've got a sufficient warning that the galleries in question may have nude shots. The rest is up to the viewer. I tend to come from the "art is art" school of thought though. -Taltos


LostPatrol ( ) posted Thu, 24 February 2005 at 7:25 PM

To me no its not porn, but to some it may be. Excellent series, I probably would lean toward #2 or at least #3 Like you my site attracts many family viewers but its all landscapes so it doesnt matter, but in your position I wouldnt want to alienate any of my audience. Not sure if this helps much, I get the impression though that you have probably answered your own question and are looking for general opinion form like minded people. The nudity issue is very broad, and what is quite innocent to some may not be to others. LP

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Nilla ( ) posted Thu, 24 February 2005 at 8:47 PM

Donald, Personally I would leave it as is. I mean it isn't like the nudity jumps out at ya. I think most level headed people would almost expect there to be some nudity on a fine art site. Just my two cents. Brenda :)


tvernuccio ( ) posted Thu, 24 February 2005 at 10:56 PM

i think as long as you have sufficient warnings on the site just so people know, then that should be good enough. i see no reason to have a separate gallery for your nudes. i hate morning shift too!!! nothing worse than having to get up with a damn alarm clock!!!! i just work 2 mornings a week...the rest is 2nd shift! i'm happy!


DJB ( ) posted Thu, 24 February 2005 at 11:03 PM

I kind of think if you leave it you do not make it as if you are trying to hide anything.Your images are tastefully done and people should know your versatility. If your site means a lot to you and you want to promote yourself in this type of photgraphy,keep it all together.

"The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the absence but in the mastery of his passions."



UKmac ( ) posted Fri, 25 February 2005 at 12:01 AM

I had a look at your site, nicely done. I would not personaly use a seperate site addr (#2). If you are worried about it, maybe remove the 'Mary' and 'Elle' names from the main page and replace them with just the option of 'Fine Art' which will take you to a second Main page named Fine art with the options of Mary and Elle together with a nudity warning. Guess that's what you mean by option #3, but not to bury them. Just an idea.... Steve


Erlik ( ) posted Fri, 25 February 2005 at 2:07 AM

Well, you've already done 3), seems to me. I would leave it as it is. And if you've put into your galleries some of the car show photos you posted here (the ones with girls), there's certainly people who might take offense at them, too.

-- erlik


DHolman ( ) posted Fri, 25 February 2005 at 2:47 AM

Thanks guys ... I appreciate your insights. Need to think on it a bit more. Thanks again, -=>Donald


randyrives ( ) posted Fri, 25 February 2005 at 8:14 AM

Coming from a very conservative family from the Deep South, my views sometimes lean to caution. I thought about this as I read everyone's thoughts so far. My first reaction was to agree with the 2nd site, as this fits my up bringing. I know my wife doesn't understand why every photography book has nudes. Would she be offended by a site that had nude photographs? I think not as long as you don't throw it up in front of her face. I think UKmac had a good suggestion.


DHolman ( ) posted Fri, 25 February 2005 at 12:22 PM

Yea, I think UKMac had a good suggestion to. What I think I'll do is leave it all as one site, pull the images from the Studio/Location gallery, add a new gallery called Fine Art. Create a Fine Art Gallery page that has a "there may be nudity" warning on it, behind that will be the entry for each gallery like the others, with a thumbnail and gallery info with each gallery containing nudity clearly marked in red (like now). Fits with flow of site and I like it as a good compromise. Thanks again guys. -=>Donald


UKmac ( ) posted Fri, 25 February 2005 at 1:13 PM

Donald, I think that will work Steve


JordyArt ( ) posted Fri, 25 February 2005 at 2:25 PM

Lol.... when I read UKMac's suggestion I was gonna put a reply agreeing with it, as it is the perfect... well, not exactly compromise but more.... solution. But as others have already agreed and you seem to have opted for it, I don't need to write that anymore. Nice site btw ;-) (",)


cynlee ( ) posted Sat, 26 February 2005 at 2:21 AM

ditto UK!! :]


JordyArt ( ) posted Sat, 26 February 2005 at 5:02 AM

Isn't that what I just said?!? ROFLMAO (",)


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