Their "true crime" shows like Forensic Files often feature Posette and Dork. (Frequently in painfully amateur poses! Okay, it's not easy to pose Posette so she's holding a gun to her head. But you can do it so that her bra isn't twisted around her arm.)

Tonight, no Poser diagrams or animations, but there was a Poser connection. A serial killer wrote a taunting letter to the newspaper - referencing Thralldom.org. The show described it as "a bondage Web site."

How bizarre! Was it a "stupid criminal trick" where he mentioned one of his own images? Some of Thralldom's artwork was waaaay out there.

LOL...randym, when I attended the American Academy of Forensic Science (AAFS) last year no one I spoke to used Poser. I asked a few venders, a forensic engineer, and animators and none of them had even heard of it. Curious Labs would be wise to vender their product at AAFS if they are going to advertise it as having forensic usefulness...

The serial killer, Maury Travis, was supposedly one of the first caught via Internet sleuthing. He printed out a map from Mapquest or some such site, and sent it to the newspaper to show them where one of his victims' bodies was. The cops got Microsoft and the phone company to figure out who had zoomed in on that section of the map the week it was mailed. It led them right to his door.

Thralldom.org was only mentioned in passing. He listed it as the return address on the letter.

I'm surprised that no one at AAFS has heard of Poser. It's used a heck of a lot on CourtTV. I suppose that's not really forensics, but still...who does all those diagrams and animations? I see Dork and Posette on CourtTV all the time. It's obviously them. They are used with the standard Poser hair and clothing, so are very recognizable.

Ah yes, the MapQuest case. I remember that. Lazy SOB shoulda' used Rand McNally.

The problem is that laboratories in general don't use Poser or do animations at all. That's something contracted for legal services. So lawyers/tv producers are more likely to hire an animator to make a court presentation than would a lab to use the program in order to solve the crime...

" A serial killer wrote a taunting letter to the newspaper - referencing Thralldom.org. The show described it as "a bondage Web site." " Thralldom doesn't exist anymore since two years and it was an excellent site killed by the bandwidth!

Yeah, I know. This case happened in 2002, though, when it was still up.

I'm not surprised it was killed by bandwidth. With the kind of art they had, probably most of visitors weren't interested in Poser or 3D art. There were like Maury Travis, Internet randoms who saw it as a free porn site.

Some of CourtTV's Poser demonstrations are good, but some are awful. I understand that they probably don't want them to look realistic, because murder scenes would be too upsetting if they did. So it's Posette and Dork, not Mike and Vicky, with no textures. But there's no excuse for the horrible lighting and posing. Sometimes I'm so amazed at the horrible breakage in the mesh from the inept posing that I don't even notice the bullet trajectory or whatever. And they usually use the standard Poser lighting, hair, and the clothing. They don't even change the color of the clothing to make it match the live action parts of the show better.

" With the kind of art they had, probably most of visitors weren't interested in Poser or 3D art. There were like Maury Travis, Internet randoms who saw it as a free porn site." It was not a porn site, it was a very good quality 3d art site, most of the art was of adult content, but not all. The average quality of art was much better than the average quality of the art at Renderosity, and the site had a great number of great and excellent artists, some of those artists are here and others you can find at other sites.

randym77 - "...I see Dork and Posette on CourtTV all the time..." What were they charged with?

Thralldom sounds familiar to me, but I must have missed the site never saw anything.....kinda wish I had sounds curious... Okay very curious I am updating here lol. Had to (yup just had to) try to see what if anything was there now....I got a "connection refused" notice.....now that's odd I've never received that before lol.

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I think I saw that episode. Thralldom was sort of a poser fetish site, but it also had some general poser props. In my memory, there was nothing particularly deviate there such as pedophilia or beastiality. It was sort of a precursor to the other R-place. I'm thinking it was somehow connected to 3DCommune, but I don't know how...

"It was sort of a precursor to the other R-place" It was the contrary, Renderotica has existed first. Thrallord had a particular site very well known with his own pictures, I don't know how long has existed, when I discovered Renderotica I discovered his site and Renderosity also. Some time later when Renderotica ended his first encarnation, Thrallord opened his site to other artists and created a community: Thralldom. Some time later opened a shop. What was common with 3dCommune is that his site was hosted by A1host and the software of the site used by Thraldom was the same software of 3dCommune.