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Subject: Bear Cub


aryeguetta ( ) posted Sat, 12 March 2005 at 5:01 PM · edited Thu, 01 August 2024 at 1:09 PM

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Hi All,

I've just wondered where the bear cub went?
I know I saw it somewhere But I can't remember where it was.

I was just trying something here ( I'm not clameing anything - Nothing special was done here : a fine tunning of the body and a few Simple Morph Targets).

I was just happy from the easy way that things can be done for a task ( like a bear Cub) :)

I'm glad that I could do that - BTW I'm not sure that if it is GOOD or NOT - Hope you all can help me and tell me if it is OK and I do have a Bear Cub in my hands.

As I mentioned before - There is a bear cub out there :)

Thanks
aryeguetta
Happy posing

*** All I did was body scaling [SP(x,y,z)] and a few MT such as short nose , little teeth , rounded ears, fine forehead, a little nose job .


MachineClaw ( ) posted Sat, 12 March 2005 at 5:57 PM

Attached Link: http://www.vistainternetproducts.com/bears.htm

Lyne's Creations at Vistainternetproducts has Bears and in the pack is a cub for the Daz Bear model. I think yours looks great and a fine job of both scaling and fine tuning morphs.


hauksdottir ( ) posted Sun, 13 March 2005 at 12:26 AM · edited Sun, 13 March 2005 at 12:28 AM

Didn't wenke or someone at 3dcommune make a bear cub? Note if you plan to redistribute it, whether it was originally free or commercial, ask permission from the original modeler... it will save grief all around. Carolly

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aryeguetta ( ) posted Sun, 13 March 2005 at 4:05 AM

Thanks for the comments, I'm not sure where there is a bear Cub out there! I know it must be out there and I can't point where it is. But since I did all the work with DAZ bear I'm not sure others can't!. I think that if there is a bear cub out there,It should be for free ( only my opinion ). But if I will post it (not sure if it is something that others wants) Who should I ask for permission??? who own the bear cub?? :) regards, Happy posing aryeguetta


hauksdottir ( ) posted Sun, 13 March 2005 at 6:38 AM

The problem is that you might be using DAZ mesh, and if you derived your cub from that mesh, when you redistribute it, people who never bought the bear might be able to reverse engineer it and get the bear without paying for it. This would be part of the problem. We are allowed to modify items for our own use, but not to share something if it contains other people's work. Even if the original isn't a commercial mesh, the person who modeled it has certain rights to what is done with it. In this case, I'd ask cooler if your mesh was the DAZ bear... he could identify it and tell you how to proceed. There are ways to encode items so that the original must be installed first. As to who would want a bear cub? Lots of people. They are useful for pastoral forest scenes (I'm thinking of a famous Russian painting). Advertisers (Coke and Hamm's) have had plenty of mileage out of them. Science fiction writers have used bears as intelligent species in books about exploration of hostile worlds. And being round, they have a cuteness quotient which probably appeals to the vast majority of artists here to judge by emotiguy and the 'toons. Carolly


cooler ( ) posted Sun, 13 March 2005 at 7:28 AM · edited Sun, 13 March 2005 at 7:31 AM

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aryeguetta,

If your bear is based on the DAZ bear there are two easy ways you can legally distribute it. You can either save it as a pose file or encode it using Maz's Objaction Mover or Russell Cook's RTE encoder. That way you don't have to worry about running afoul of DAZ's copyright agent. I understand he's a singularly unpleasant sort of person to deal with. :-)

btw... the 1st bear cub I know of was a freebie from Dedicated Digital back in 1999, but it was a polar bear, not a brown or black. I remember it because I used it for my digital Xmas card that year. edited to correct the spelling on Mr Cooks' name so he doesn't hit me :-)

Message edited on: 03/13/2005 07:31


aryeguetta ( ) posted Sun, 13 March 2005 at 7:40 AM

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WOW!!! Thanks alot for clearing things up :) BTW I was wondering..... Is there a MESH OBJ file within the CR2 file? - Untill now I thought that the mesh (OBJ) installed seperatly from the CR2 file. If I'm publishing ,let say - for free , a CR2 file does it include the MESH OBJ file within it????? Or Only the Morph Targets and other usefull info? I hope that I could finely get a clear answer of the things within POSER files :) Thanks in Advanced regards, aryeguetta Happy posing ;)


cooler ( ) posted Sun, 13 March 2005 at 7:55 AM

aryeguetta, A cr2 file calls to an external obj. There should be an obj file somewhere in the poser/runtime/geometries/* folder. If it is a DAZ/Zygote figure the obj file will, in all likelihood, begin with the letters "bl" as in "blBear.obj", "blLion.obj", etc. However it's not necessary for you to use the whole cr2 file if you save as a pose (pz2) or pcf/rte encode. That way you also avoid the problem of distributing morph targets that you don't own :-)


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