I'm not sure if this even counts towards this month's challange. ruffles and collar modeled in P5 by me using Geep's Curtain tutorial appied to a flattened cylinder, copied rotated and stacked Texture is an original by me model is V3 with my own character morphs. hair is Koz messy hair with a blue diffuse color and the Curtain that is barly visable in the back ground by me, Geep's tutorial again, but this was more for a hommage to the original tutorial then a part of the challange. Everything is done in P5 with no post I dialed in the pose and expressions, but I'm not sure about them, something doesn't seem quite right with them. any suggestions?

I'd consider a different hairstyle, preferably center-parted since you are dividing your character along the centerline. Also make the hair white, so that it would show up better against the dark background. (I made this mistake once... in oil paint... much harder to fix.) Maya has a flip hairstyle with a band which you might think about, too, since you could put stuff (glitter stars, whatever) on it, which would help call attention to her face. As to the pose, she looks like she is going to fall forward onto us. The near foot can't hold her weight at that angle. Switch cameras to the Top view and see where her center of balance is. You may need to tweak her hip rotation a bit and/or flatten/splay the toes of her left foot to grip the floor. As to whether it counts? I suspect that Dr Geep's purpose is nudging us to be more creative with the tools at hand. Carolly

According to what's on the challenge page: "Theme: Dr. Geep's Curtains - You MUST have at least one curtain in your image that was made with Dr. Geep's tutorial. Imported models and postwork are OK EXCEPT for the Curtain. The Curtain MUST be made from the tutorial. (Minor postwork on the edges or shadows or blending of the curtain is OK. The point is to make the curtain in Poser using the tut.)" Make the curtain and replace the one you have in the background with the curtain from the tutorial.

Ohh the one in the background is already (you can't see them, but there are acctually 3 one top one, and 2 sides. In that case then I probably should go with a spot light even if it's low intensity to 'bring forward' the curtain from the back.

Here is a new draft render of a new pose, and the changed hair. I tried the white hair, but then it got lost in the white of the face. So I met it half way.

Editorial Note - Doc is going to try and stay out of this thread ... except to answer any questions. ;=] But, NaySayGuy may (<--- read that "probably will") butt in from time to time.

That looks better for her face. There may be other hairstyles to try, but lightening the area and lifting it makes a good frame for her features. The ruffs aren't casting a shadow, so you might want to check material settings. Your first image has nice shadows. The shadow doesn't have to be black, either. Even under a spotlight (which is a harsh setting), you can up the ambient on her skin just slightly. Carolly