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Subject: Early fighter WIP


drawbridgep ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 9:28 AM · edited Fri, 16 August 2024 at 11:22 AM

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Here's what I'm playing around with. I'm thinking of a fighter that it just as happy in an atmosphere as it is in space. Which is why it has air intakes which probably close in space and it switches to rockets or something. I'm trying to give it a little believability. Which is why it is aerodynamic and has control thrusters on the engines which is uses in space and in the atmosphere rather than control surfaces like a plane. Hey, are you still reading this? I'm proud of you. Thanks.

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 9:31 AM

Now, I've just looked it up and escape velocity from earth is 25,000 miles per hour. Which this little thing probably couldn't manage. So assume it's not earth. :-)

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Warblade ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 9:35 AM

Looks good but might just be me but it looks like it needs a tail rudder of some kind. Other than that it looks good! Rod.


drawbridgep ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 9:38 AM

It uses rocket thrusters rather than control surfaces. I wanted to avoid putting fins on it. Not that I know too much about aeronautics. Maybe it needs one to stabalise it, but not for control.

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Warblade ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 9:40 AM

there ya go a stablizer..kinda like the Viper fighter from battlestar glactica?..kind of a long thick fin that runs down the back of it..


drawbridgep ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 9:46 AM

You're a mind reader. :-) I was looking at Viper pictures ealier trying to get inspiration. Which is why the engines have, maybe, a passing resemblance to a viper.

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Warblade ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 9:53 AM

Well now that i am laid off i might take up mind reading as a new carreer!?


drawbridgep ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 9:58 AM

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Here's another render. (Maybe not Bryce but keep that quiet)

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draculaz ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 10:03 AM

cough yafray cough like the new render better actually, and i like the general idea. quite cool. all you need now are some stabilizers for general atmosphere flight. drac (since it doesn't have a delta wing to glide on home)


drawbridgep ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 10:07 AM

Hey! Do X-Wings have stablizers? The pilots of this thing know what they're doing. They don't need stablizers. :-)

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Warblade ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 10:12 AM

LOL Actually they did have stablizers...But i am sure your pilots are way better would never use any such thing like that! "We dont need no stinkin stablizers!"


RodsArt ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 10:22 AM

That is an amazing model. Only one drawback, your pilots will need to carry spoons to dig their eyes out of the back of their heads. That Propulsion setup Rocks!! WTG Phil.

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 10:23 AM

I'm gonna have to watch Star Wars again for the 54th time, cause I don't remember stabilizers. They had wings for sure, but they seemed to be more to hold the guns than stabilize the thing. :-) OK, how about this. In addition to the 16 thrusters on the engines, there are additional thrusters which are flush with the engine body that provide stabilization in an atmosphere. AND in addition to that, there are mechanical stabilizers like aerofoils that can "flap" as needed. But you can't see them in this render. :-P

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Warblade ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 10:27 AM

LOL that works.. it is an awsome model man..I cant tell you how to build it considering i have no clue how to use wings.. Rod.


drawbridgep ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 10:27 AM

ICM - er. em. let me think...... OK, Inertial Dampners like in Star Trek. Any more questions!? :-D

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RodsArt ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 10:30 AM

(nix the spoons) Oreos for you too!

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 10:34 AM

Oh no cookies. I've been stuffing my face with easter eggs all morning. I feel a little sick.

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 11:09 AM · edited Wed, 23 March 2005 at 11:13 AM

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OK, I've changed the cockpit and nose and (I can't believe I did this) added stabilizer fins. I hope everyone is happy that I totally lost my artistic integrity. :-)

Ignore the dodgy shadow in the rear. I wanted to light up the air intakes.

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RodsArt ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 11:19 AM

Whoa!!, those nose louvers are great. Can you redefine the framework around the cockpit?, seems a bit bulky. This is smokin!

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 11:21 AM

You mean around the window? It's a structual integrity issue. Ok, I can't be arsed. :-)

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Mugsey ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 11:24 AM

I love it! you don't need a fighter that fast if it leaves the earth "horizontally" via gradual altitude climb. The old SR-71 Blackbird reconn plane use to scrape the edge of space all the time - and the U2 already does. The virgin airlines SPACESHIP 1 recently did it by the piggy back "free ride" method also.


Mugsey ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 11:25 AM

By the way - WILL YOU GIVE ME A COPY OF THAT FIGHTER PLEEEEAAAAASSSSSEEEE? LOL :)


kimpe ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 2:18 PM

This ROCKS!!


drawbridgep ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 4:48 PM

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OK, last one for today. Duplicated and flipped the engines.

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 4:49 PM

And added the start of an interior. :-)

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Kemal ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 6:13 PM

Brilliant work, Phil, honestly I like version on the post 18 much better, last one is more similar to star wars vehicles, wich is not a bad thing, don't get me wrong ! :D


MoonGoat ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 6:27 PM

Yeah, lose the x-wing schtick. On 18 it looks almost like the Descent craft.


TheBryster ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 7:20 PM
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#24 Rocks big time! Maybe add a bit of glow around the back of the engines?

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 7:26 PM

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I was thinking it looked more like a B5 Fury than an X-Wing.

So the question is, can you have too much lens flare? :-)

Yes.

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TheBryster ( ) posted Wed, 23 March 2005 at 7:40 PM
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Great action shot, but a bit bright on the eyes...

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Thu, 24 March 2005 at 8:49 PM

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A few more wips showing the cockpit interior I've been working on.

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drawbridgep ( ) posted Thu, 24 March 2005 at 8:49 PM

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and a close up

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