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Subject: Why does this pic suck??
Very cool shot by the way. It hard to say why it happens, but your adjustments are only making more pronounced what was already there. I kinda like the patterns coming out in the background, but there are a few ways to minimize them if you want. 1). Select the background only and colorize it to about the same predominant color, then fade the colorization to a point that is good for you. 2). Select just the background and blur the heck out of it. 3). Paste just the stalk into the original file over itself. This way you have the adjusted plan but old background you liked. 4). Clone the icky spots out. 5). Shoot it again and change the background. ;o]
Kort Kramer - Kramer Kreations
Hmm...i dont see em...stupid monitor. Hey Pascale, i got a better question for you: What makes you think this pic sucks?????? Its beautiful, damn it!!!!
How come we say 'It's colder than hell outside' when
isn't it realistically always colder than hell since hell is
supposed to be fire and brimstone?
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I would use the Photoshop render for a 'cloud' background using the colours already in the existing one (highlight colour and lowlight colour), put it on top of the existing one and then reduce the cloud opacity until the two merge suitably. I've never tried this before, but my mind says it should work and look good here. (",) btw, it doesn't suck. It may look like some strange cross between a triffid and a cabbage, but it doesn't suck....
"The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the
absence but in the mastery of his passions."
I don't think it sucks either! And the background doesn't bother me.... my only feeling is that the compo is a little bit too tight on the bottom.... but that's just me.
I am, therefore I create.......
--- michelleamarante.com
Doug, I totally love what u did with it and YES, the top of the plant is definitely too light!!! Dunno how to fix it though and it would be really cool if u could tell me what u did on this one! And Michelle, I do agree with that too! It is too tight at the bottom! I think I might just follow Kort's advice and go and shoot it again!! The story of this shot is...I was with Laurent and Sam, Laurent was getting very impatient cos I was stopping every 5 mns to shoot something, Sam was coming and going, getting impatient too and walking in front of the cam and I was in a very bad position, having some thorns stinging my bottom!! So I rushed it and here's the result! I don't like this shot...but I like it much better with Doug's PS on it...Mmmmh! Oh well! Thx u all so much for ur feedback on this and Doug, waiting for ur secret here! ;)
I took the image and in PSE3 I used the SHadows and Highlights to darken ad give some contrast. The selelcted the whole thing and gaussion blurred it Trasnfered over to PSP8 and pasted both to each other and erased over the background.Thats my fast way of doing it.I never spent the time on edges or anything, but just was seeing if having it darker and more blurred would be more suitable. Took about 40 seconds to do that.
"The happiness of a man in this life does not consist in the
absence but in the mastery of his passions."
what you see is not what you know; it in your face
I guess my question is - for such a vertical subject, why the square composition? Why have 2/3 of the frame devoted to "nothingness" that everyone else seems to be concerned with (what happened to the subject? yes, it could be a bit more subdued - but the fact that everyone is so concerned with the background screams that there is little or no attention being payed to the subject of the photo). One problem from the original post - washed-out highlights on the subject. Another thing - even though this is perfect technically - the subject really doesn't have any "special" qualities that separate it from most other sprouts. This is coming from a purely objective perspective - and I hope I haven't offended anyone (skins seem to be getting thinner 'round here) Wolf
Thx Doug, Jocko and Sheila! Wolf, MY question was about the background NOT about the compo itself and the fact that u find that the subject "doesn't have any special qualities that separate it from most other sprouts" doesn't interest me here! U didn't help at all on this one, u've just been an ass! But thx anyway! ;)
Tibet - Not to drift OT, but this is a perfect example of what we were talking about in the other thread (tonal ranges). Your background was nice and smooth (tonally) until you did your adjustments. Afterwards, it had some irregular patches. That's what we mean when you see us say things like "stepping on the data", "damaging the image" or "breaking the image". Every single tool and filter and adjustment in your image editor will change or throw away original data. The more coarse the tool you use, the more damage. This can show up as splotchiness, noise, halos and any number of other things. In the end, what we strive for is to use the tool with the finest control that does the least amount of damage to the image. And that's why those of us who use curves, use it. -=>Donald
LOL, Pascale!!! Oopsy!!! my bad, cutie! I thought you were teasin' me!!!!! my eyes are real blurry and i'm seeing spots and stuff. it's migraine-related. just a little pain in my eyes. not too bad. that's what i was talkin' about in my other thread. i've had this almost every day for 3 weeks. if i don't have pain, i have that eye stuff goin' on. that means a migraine is trying to come on. anyway...guess it's a good thing i'm starting that new medicine tonight! i can't even read straight!! anyway, someone else mentioned something to me about using curves in another image. he did some work on it and emailed it to me and i saw a HUGE difference. i've never used it before, but after i saw what he did with my image, i realized i need to learn about that. i plan to try it tomorrow or Thurs. i'll have to read about how to use that. thanks for the info, Donald. that's great information! hugz pascale!!
Jocko - In Photoshop, you find curves in 2 places. The first is when you want to apply the curves to a layer. That's Under IMAGE -> ADJUSTMENT -> CURVES (or CTRL-M). The second is a curves adjustment layer (LAYER -> NEW ADJUSTMENT LAYER -> CURVES). Tibet and Doug - No no ... that's not it. The histogram adjustment looks like it "kind of" does a dumbed down version of what you can do with curves, but the point control isn't there. I know PSP has it somewhere...gimme a bit and let me see if I can find it. -=>Donald
Attached Link: http://www.gurusnetwork.com/tutorial/curves/
Cyn - Yea ... I knew there was a curves there somewhere. Thank you ... man, PSP is hard to get good info on. I even got the PSP8 user guide in PDF format and it didn't have it in there either. Blah. Anyway, check the above link. It's a really good, not overly technical tutorial on what curves can do and how. Not everything I mentioned, but the fundementals. Lots of pictures showing what they're talking about too. -=>Donald
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My main problem with that pic is the background! On the original shot, it's smooth but after I did the contrast and saturation adjustement (very mild ones too) the background shows some irregular patches in its texture! Can u see it too and why does it do that and how can I fix it??? Plz, pretty plz?? This is so annoying!