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hello, (I hope you'll understand this without a picture) I have little problems when I import Poser objects (as OBJ) into Vue. 1.) I worked with the Poser 4 female wearing a bikini. When I import this into Vue some parts of the body are not mapped. Just a white texture. The rest of the body is perfect. 2.) Somethimes parts of the mesh in are not right. You can see the breast through the bikini, in fact the bikini top is IN the body.

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Hair is a prop in Poser. If the Bikini is a added prop also, you have to do the following : In Poser, create your figure. Before exporting it as a OBJ file, you have to : 1. select hair 2. In the Menu, go to EDIT-->PROPERTIES 4. Choose SELECT PARENT in the window what opens and choose NONE from the list. Click OK 3. select bikini 4. In the Menu, go to EDIT-->PROPERTIES 5. Choose SELECT PARENT in the window what opens and choose NONE from the list. Click OK In Vue d'Esprit you get then a figure, a figure hair and a bikini. First map the body, then map separately the props.

Holli, There seems to be a problem with importing a Poser character into Vue if anything attached to the character has been either incorrectly UV mapped or has no UV coordinates at all. You will have to either use a different bikini top, or remap it with UV mapper first. I don't know why problem #2 is happenning, but it's probably related to the first problem. You might be able to remap the original .obj and overwrite the non-mapped one, but if you try that, I would suggest that you back up the "bad" one first, for sure. If it's a prop derived from a 3DS mesh, which it probably was, you'll have to convert it to Wavefront.obj first, run it through UV Mapper, and then import it back into Poser. or, you could just export her without the problem parts, and then import those separately, and fit them on to her in Vue, but that's not too terribly easy. I hope this helps, and if you have any more problems with this, let us know. :) Cheers, Mike

Everything is mapped perfect, exceprt the "holes" !! The skin, the Bikini, all fine. I'll try to import "naked" characters and will look out if any more mapping errors will occur.

I would try what Gebe above said. She has been using Vue for quite a while, and most definitely knows what she's talking about. What you described once happened to me, and I was able to fix it by doing what I suggested, but it sounds like you might be having a different problem happenning. -Mike

It doesn't work ! Sorry, but when I have a character and something else I allways get these mapping holes. The only choice is import everything a single files. But that is terrible, you not only have to relocate everything you also have to resize !! Allmost impossible. There has to be an other way.

Holli, It sounds as though there is SOMETHING wrong with those objects. Maybe a corrupted geometry file or something. I export Poser .obj files with multiple characters and props in to Vue all the time, as do most if not all of the people here using Vue, and I assure you it works just fine--GREAT, for that matter. Can you post the file somewhere for me to download it and try it out to see what might be wrong with it? Only if it's not something you had to buy, that is. Or if it's available on someone's website, you could dirct me there, and I will get it myself. When you say above, "everything is mapped perfect" are you SURE you mean the UV's and not simply the textures as they appear in Poser? I know of one thing rom Poser which will cause problems, and that is Poser's torus prop, which has a similar effect to what you describe, though only remotely similar. You will have to give very detailed information if you want help with this, because I really don't know exactly what's happenning. --Mike PS What version of Poser are you using? Are you CERTAIN it was a wavefront.obj file that this bikini was originally? have you looked at it in any other 3D programs? Are the normals inverted?

I'm using poser 4 and the bikini is something that came with the programm. So I think it's not corruppted. I'm only using the P4 female and the bikini top, nothing else. All objects are mapped with bitmap grafics. I apply textures-files in Poser and save it as OBJ. When I load it in Vue the software gets the maps if there are in the same directroy as the OBJ. Works fine as long as the character is not dressed !!! I'll try to load this all in MAX tomorrow. You say you do it all the time, ok So you export Poser and import Vue, right ? No step between this ??

No steps in between at all. Do you have the Poser 4.03.126 patch applied? Are you checking off every box EXCEPT "save as morph target no world transformations"? I will try it again with the basic P4 woman with the Poser 4 bikini parts applied and post a rendering of it. I still think that you must have something in there which you might not be aware of which is causing the problem. But, it's not un-heard of for some people to simply have a bad installation of Vue for some reason. Other problems recently have been fixed by re-installing Vue. Do you have version 3 or 3.1? I don't know what the problem was with 3, but it was fixed with the 3.1 patch, so they say, and is free at the E-On website to registered Vue d'Esprit 3 users.

Take a look at this !! The shirt is perfect, the face too. But take a good look at the neck ! Whats going on ? My Vue was 3.10.02 but I ran the update afterall. Where do I get the Poser Patch ??

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Holli, I think I *might* have figured out your problem. If that's the regular Poser T shirt, that is. See, even though you can't see it while you're using it in Poser, all those clothes have hidden body parts, and it looks as though the neck, which is actually there in material form, though you won't see it in poser, is showing through, becasue it's not properly conformed or something, which it won't, because it's not an object. When you export as .obj, make sure the "neck" is not selected on the screen that pops up asking you what you want to export. This is the only thing I can think that it might be, and if this is not the answer to the problem, then I have no idea what it could be. The patch for Poser 4.03.126 can be found at the link i've included. I think the Poser patch improved it's exporting abilities, in addition to being able to export morph targets. I hope this helps you. :) Mike I hope this helps

heyas; just a note about importing things in pieces. if you want/need to do that (btw, does the bikini import okay by itself??) go to the preferences and uncheck where it says 'center and resize' imports. when that is off, the poser-exported objs will all come in with their exact positions and sizes they had in poser. you can then group them and scale them up if you need to.

Hmm...I never noticed that before...thanks.

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Hi Holli! That is definitely the neck showing through. If you look in the "parts" list over on the right you will see it (although it might not be named correctly) and you can delete the upper neck portion, or set it transparent. In poser a lot of the conforming figures have a little extra invisible fabric to make them fit properly. When you do your export from poser you can uncheck those extras but I just wait and delete 'em in vue. I'd recommend having a look at my vue tutorial on importing poser figures and mapping them; it's pretty easy reading but it covers a lot of quirks like the "resize and center" thing. Mary

AHA! So I was finally right about something! WooHoo!! Thanks Mary!