Just checked the BBC website, and found out that Dr Who is back! A whole new series and guess who else is back, too? EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE! Need I say more...... Just in time for Poser 6, Now all I have to do is figure some way to get the BBC here in Jenkinsburg!

if you are in Canada, the new Doctor Who 2005 will be airing on April 5th at 8pm (EST) on CBC. anyone else spotted the resemblance of the new Doc to James? ;)

Damn you Canadians!! War! War! ;)

On a more sane note (C#b7+13), do they mention who is playing Who? :) P.S.: Yes, I know that is a chord, not a note...

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Yes, check the BBC website under entertainment, they have the complete loaddown with pics! http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/

Wow... I liked the Dr back when I like 8 or something and that's it... This new series looks really quite good!!! Thanks fo rthe links guys!!!!!! Wow, Corner Gas on Mondays & now Dr Who on CBC on Tuesdays... This'll actually mean I will be watching 2 programs on the local channels!!!! Thankfully one of them (duh) is an import!!! Just like our music (Celine Dion anyone?) or tv sucks here in Canada!!

the new Doctor is Christopher Eccleston.

It was great, I really enjoyed it. Eccleston was great, real quirky :) Great humor, slightly mad storyline, really blending the normal in with the world of dr who, which just kind of made it all a bit wierder. Looking forward to next weeks episope. John

I watched it tonight and it was damn good Chris Eccleston is superb - a real different version of the Doc than any previous.

As an Australian, I am curious to know if Dr Who became a cult hit in the USA ?

Oh yes indeed. If anything he is bigger here than in the UK! At SCIFI conventions, Dr Who is still one of the biggest draws aside from Star Wars or Star Trek. Back in the late 70's and early 80's you could see Dr Who on PBS here. PBS is Public Broadcasting Service which usually shows education shows...

That's interesting to know ..... I have had this impression (for whatever reason) that British shows had a lot of trouble taking off in the US....

I saw where the pilot episode was leaked on to the net on bbcnews.com. Some 3 weeks early. They had a lot about the new series on the bbcnews.com website. Damm I need to get a sat dish or move to canada or england.

Not only Brit show but also shows from down under. When Dr Who was showing here, just before it come on there was a neat show with this guy called Paul Hogan. It was great!

Crocodile Dundee!!!!! Wow! Is Paul Hogan still around????

Yeah he is....

No trouble at all taking off in the US! There is a dedicated cable channel: BBC America just for showing British shows. I tend to like the comedies. "The Kumars at No. 42" is interesting if not eclectic. :) The one problem is that BBCA doesn't show everything and I suspect that the shows they do have are not syndicated over to the US for a year or so in many cases.

Eccleston rocks big-time as The Doctor. One word of caution though for die-hard fans (like me) they're really playing a lot of it for laughs, and it doesn't suck, surprisingly. I've watched it from Episode one, Series one...1963 if memory serves, and this one looks like The Doctor is back IN STYLE. I think the one episode tonight exceded the entire special effects budget they had for the last 42 (FORTY TWO!!??) years. Gawd..I feel VERY old all of a sudden. ~rofl~

i just saw it over here in belgium on bbc1 & man it rocks big time!!! i just love it, where do they get these storylines? living plastics!! LOL anyway it made me feel very nostalgic.... btw did anyone notice that billy piper has gained some weight? but not in a bad way, though!!! she looks hotter then ever!!!

Very cool...but the big question is how does the new theme stack up against the old ones. I live in Canada so I have to wait another week or so....drat!!!

So is it going to be on BBC America as well?

The bad guys in this one were first faced by Jon Pertwee's Doctor, in the story "Terror of the Autons". Don't forget the documentary stuff on BBC3 immediately afterwards.

I watched it last night - not terribly sure about Billie Piper as Rose, but Christopher Eccleston is very good as the doctor. His dress sense is very understated (no wacky scarf/umbrella/hat) - I read that that's because Eccleston wants the flamboyancy to come through in the performance, and I think he pulls it off admirably. I am a bit concerned about the lengths of each plotline. Back in the day, each story was spun out over 6 episodes. Checking the transmission schedule, it did look as though each story was now going to be completed over one episode, or at most two. I'm just worried that everything will be too easy, e.g. in last night's pilot, it didn't take a whole lot of time to kill the Nestine Consciousness.

I thought it was great, really good performance from Chris Eccleston, spot on. Like zulu, I'm not sure about Billie - I kept expecting her to burst into a chorus of "Because We Want To!" - but I'm prepared to give her a chance, maybe she'll grow on me. And my husband is now frightened to take the rubbish out. LOL!

Yea I watched it last night .Overhall I liked it, looks promising. I had my doubts about billy piper too but she started to grow on me.

I wonder if there's a little bit of influence from Buffy in the character and performance? Maybe one of the good things about Buffy is that it has so thoroughly knocked back the idea of the Screamer in TV adventure shows. And it's not an "always wearing the same clothes" budget. Is it going to be a world-shaking success? I don't know, yet, but it's definitely something the whole family could watch, and that's been a rare thing in recent TV drama. Some nice touches for the parents (and grandparents) who watched the originals, and plenty for the younger generation. But I bet more than you think would get the bit with The Doctor and Rose's Mum.

I think I was a bit disappointed with the first episode simply because of the expectations I had in my head. I was hoping that the Doctor had been captured by the Daleks or Cybermen and had possibly been immobilized in some way for 16 years so that he could be interrogated without being a threat to them - something more like that. So It would have been nice to have seen him escape. The new show is going to be different (a lot more humour) but I know that I will watch them every week just like when I was a wee boy. I share zulu9812's thoughts, everything was too easily resolved in one episode. Part of the appeal of Doctor Who was the cliff-hanger endings - are people's attention span that short these days? In the past I used to love the end of a story line when you where introduced briefly to the next story line - it was great when the mood changed and suddenly you were in a completely new environment. I think the new Doctor Christopher Eccleston will be good - he exhibits the characteristics of my favourite Doctors, Patrick Troughton and Tom Baker; both were smart, intense and humorous. Hope we get lots of moments like the 'Spinning Earth' monologue from Christopher, that was brilliant.

the one thing that hit me above the excellent script effects and acting.. Eccleston loves it. you can tell.. he loves being the doctor. he shone....

I've been studying the progress of the new series for months through www.gallifreyone.com and to a lesser extent, the official site. I must admit I was initially taken aback by the prospect of a leather jacket wearing, Al Bundy (Married with Children) look-alike, but seeing his performance, my doubts have been abated. Eccleston IS the Doctor! It's going to be frustrating being an American fan for a while. No US network (broadcast nor cable) has yet bought the series. I will admit I saw the "leaked" premiere, but I'd rather do things on the up and up. Anyway, to ring in the new series, here's an update of an earlier image. The older version did not include the finalized props for Davros. Is fan art still permitted at R'osity? I removed my DW images after the freebie "clean-up" to avoid any "write ups". Sincerely, Bill

I love the Dr's costuming...where did you find it? Alas, I'm trapped in middle America...BBCAmerica is a Premium Channel on the satelite service and one I'll have to budget for IF they carry the Doctor.

Bill, fanart in the galleries is fine (unless we get a complaint from the trademark owner, and as long as it doesn't contain copyrighted material, e.g. screenshots). However, distributing trademarked items in the form of freebies or sale items is not allowed, unless you have written permission from the owner.

Actually, this thread may not be so OT after all - I thought Rose's boyfriend looked a dead ringer for a Poser figure once he'd been "plasticized".

Actually, the clothes that the Dr is wearing in that image most certainly could be released as a Freebie, simply as 19thC. clothing (you don't even have to mention Dr Who)

Not if I want PhilC after my butt! The Victorian garb is his modeling. It along with a dress from the same period is sold at his site ( www.PhilC.net ). However, I should mentioned I swapped the pants and shoes for items that come with Poser 4. PhilC's pants have nary a wrinkle in them, appropriate for a "proper" English gentleman, but I thought the folds and wrinkles in the "man's casual pants" better suited the Doctor. The morphs are adapted from Capsces' "Boris for Michael" figure and the texture is a freebie Mec4D once offered. Now that she's around again, maybe she'll re-release "Alberto". No, I'm nowhere skilled enough to model and "rig" clothing. However, I possess some meager abilities modeling hardware such as Davros' life-support chair and related components. I've also modeled an "interpretation" of the series 18-19 console from the series. Those itms can no longer be offered here, but you can find them at www.vanishingpoint.biz. Sincerely, Bill

"I was hoping that the Doctor had been captured by the Daleks or Cybermen and had possibly been immobilized in some way for 16 years so that he could be interrogated without being a threat to them - something more like that" actually.. he's been busy the last 16 years.. check out www.bigfinish.com - the Doctor Who Audio Adventures. they've been where McGann got his turn to play the Doctor..

I always wanted to see Doctor Who as a 60's Hippie myself!

Well, they did use "Dedicated Follower of Fashion" as a backing track in one of the the promo documentaries the BBC has been showing.

I have some doubts as to the success of the new Doctor Who series. Once the promotional hype and fan relief has subsided, the production will have to stand on its merits. Based on a sample of one, I think it has some serious weaknesses. Most profound is the Eccleston Doctor. The strength of all the previous Doctors was that they were non-provincial. By presenting the incarnations of the Doctor as variations of a posh and eccentric British Gentleman, the producers always kept the character outside and above the norm. Whether you were from Wiltshire or Wakefield, the Doctor was outside of your experience and thus intrinsically alien. The British class system also meant the Doctor would be perceived as superior by the larger (UK) audience. Eccleston deliberately presents the Doctor as utterly provincial, sadly merely for reasons of political correctness. His Mancunian accent and contemporary clothing makes him seem more a resident of Coronation Street than a time traveller from another planet. His over-the-top zaniness does not compensate for his obviously provincial origins. George Formby and Norman Wisdom were other zany Northerners who also wouldnt have made good Doctors. Nor would Phil Harding (from Time Team) make a good Doctor, lest anyone assume Im deriding a particular area of the provinces. The other major limitation is the banality of the production, which shows in nearly every aspect except the production values (visual presentation, etc). This is something that plagued the Colin Baker and Sylvester Mckoy eras too. Doctor Who can only work as a serious show with funny moments. This is merely shallow humour with soulless action. And there is a difference between being funny and pissing about; unfortunately the producers still dont recognise it. Making comedy work is a serious business, and these guys dont appear to be taking it seriously. Buffy the Vampire Slayer could be hilariously funny at times, but it worked because they played it straight all the time. Maybe Im reading the public mood wrong, but I honestly dont feel this is going to be the major success the BBC is expecting. The show needed to become more serious and more special, and theyve made it mundane and frivolous. A bit like the BBC itself.

I can see what you're getting at, but I don't think the accent is such a problem. Times change.

Regarding the accent, Eccleston always regarded previous doctors as sounding like private school headmasters - so the upper class accent might render him outside of experience, but not outside of expectation or stereotype.

Gallifrey has a North you know ;)

"...but not outside of expectation or stereotype." Indeed. But stereotyping, or in the case of film/drama "type-casting", is what makes a part. A person is cast in a part because they have, or can portray, a type. Jon Pertwee's accent for Doctor Who was entirely appropriate for the part. His entirely different (provincial) accent for Worzel Gummidge was entirely appropriate for that part. The part of The Doctor is of someone special and unusual. There is nothing different or alien about the Eccleston Doctor. His portrayal reminds me of several of my Northern friends when they ham it up for their kids' entertainment, or prat about down the pub. He's just some bloke, no more exotic than "Essex girl" Rose Tyler. What the hell is he doing flying our Tardis? ;-) Maybe times have changed and I'm wrong on this. But I suspect that this Doctor will soon be looked upon as the least interesting. As Ford Prefect once demanded, "What do you mean you've met? This is Zaphod Beeblebrox from Betelgeuse Five, you know, not bloody Martin Smith from Croydon."

How special is this Doctor going to be? - this, I think, is completely in the hands of the writers. I felt in a similar way to 'pjf' until the 'Spinning Earth' monologue was delivered by Eccleston with great skill. It showed that he had a deep intense side to him. I just hope more of this side is revealed in future episodes - he's not a light weight actor. The first episode had a lot to introduce, so I think Mr Eccleston should be cut some slack and given a chance to show what the Doctor is made of.

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Okay, here's the big question: will any US station be showing the new Doctor Who series? Sci-Fi Channel? BBCAmerica? And to answer the above question, yes, British "cult" shows can definitely find an audience in the US: just look at Doctor Who, Monty Python, and the more recent Coupling and The Office. However, NBC has done terrible things with British shows: they made a word-for-word remake of Coupling with American actors (which was horrid) and they're showing an American-ized version of The Office (which will probably be just as horrid). And, yes, even FOX had to go and remake Doctor Who for their 1996 movie (starring Paul McGann as the Doctor #8). But, not to worry, we can always switch over to BBCAmerica and see the excellent, original, British versions. :) P.S. Here's a link to my original TARDIS model... one of my very first sci-fi models made with Lightwave and turned into a Poser prop. And we also have a wide selection of TARDIS props available at [Vanishing Point](http://www.vanishingpoint.biz/freestuff.asp#StartNo=154) (or select "Doctor Who" from the Quick-Select list). --John

The Saturday night showing of the first episode picked up 47% of the total TV audience at that time. Top-rated programme, beating some obscure duo called "Ant and Dec" who were claimed to be interviewing some footballer who married one of the Space Girls, or something like that. It does look as though it's been made with the US market in mind. The running time is similar to Star Trek and the way the program is structured they can put in the advertising breaks. Plus the traditionsl use of London landmarks. And 13 episodes made, which is a trifle unusual for a British TV series. If the ratings hold up, I can see it being sold to a US network, not just PBS.

Sci-Fi channel has been known to look out side of the US for their shows. Plus it would play well along side the StarGates and Battlestar Gallatica (I can see it matching well in the line up right after BSG) Here's crossing our fingers.