ahhhh ... another TOS discussion :) grabs some beer and chips greets Chris

I love these threads They dont go to any place, but its funny

They dont go to any place, but its funny exact! Greets Chris

Niet! TOS diskusion niet, Faeries hunt da!

It kills a few minutes while waiting for Poser5 to render a black screen because I forgot to set up the lights again

burka good! In some cases, it is. Highly recommended. Especially when it cuts down on the ambient noise level.

I love these threads They dont go to any place We agree on something.

Put a burka in your life: Rosity TOS. Unchangeable. Unremovable. SOLID AS THE TEN COMMANDMENTS ... at least until the next turn of the screw ... ;)

Though you shalt ban nudes faeries and pork, pig is an abomination.

not locked yet? Just be thankful they're not banning the oversexed V3 renders and the half naked females in the gallery. when they do that THEN you can gripe. ;)

Nobody is saying you guys are pedophiles, but you only damage your side by beating this issue to death. If you could come up with some mature, logical arguments that make sense to the site owners, you might be able to convince them. But when you let the lunatic fringe misrepresent you like this, it serves no positive purpose, and only re-inforces the feeling that child nudity enthusiasts should be relegated to the gulag, to the rapidly dwindling number of sites where child nudity enthusiasts are still allowed to run amok. But of course no dissent is allowed in the gulag, since everybody there is required to adhere to the child nudity enthusiast dogma without question. It's pretty obvious, by the way, that you forget one important thing. These tactics you use (ridicule, attempts at shame, intimidation) might work to force children to do your bidding, but they only alienate adults. Those tactics represent the classic profile of a predatory, abusive pedophile, so it's eery how well you guys are able to simulate those tactics, given that you're not pedophiles.

God ... I must be a pedophile ... let my kids far away from me This thread is step by step funnily surrealistic "RIDIKKULO!!"

Though this is sad, and none of us like to see anyones art censured, I do understand the premise. Granted, 3d figures are not considered pornography, however, with postwork, and the huge strides of realizm, though a fake figure, its still recognizeable as a human (and very erotic figure) none the less. though I disagree with the TOS, I understand why its there. I do not have to like it. No one does, but, there are real people behind renderosity, that must comply to what they feel is suitable. They are not telling you you cannot do your art. They are only telling you you cannot post it "here". They run it, they finance it, and they moderate it, so unfortunately, but surely, its their disgression. Nothing will stop you from posting your art, in another gallery that accepts that art, or hosting your own gallery page on your own websites. It would only be an injustice if the entirety of the genre of art was banned internet wide. Please note, especially to those who are fairy lovers and painters, you have my sympathy. But all of those who can no longer post art, have my sympathies as well. It is disheartening to be confronted with change you find unfair, as well as no longer being comfortable or able to share your work within a forum you have come to love.

These tactics you use (ridicule, attempts at shame, intimidation Yes......such tactics work just as well as the P6 memory bug. The main difference being that P6 still manages to occasionally turn out a successful render.

"Nobody is saying you guys are pedophiles," Nobody is YET you mean, it's only a matter of time before anyone with a picture of a naked child or child-like mesh is classed as a pedophile, even if the picture is of the person who owns it. "but you only damage your side by beating this issue to death. " There's nothing like beating an issue till it stops moving eh? "If you could come up with some mature, logical arguments that make sense to the site owners, you might be able to convince them." I seriously doubt any arugment however mature or logical would make the PTB change their minds on any subject once they've made their decision, seen it before & will see it again. "But when you let the lunatic fringe misrepresent you like this, it serves no positive purpose, and only re-inforces the feeling that child nudity enthusiasts should be relegated to the gulag, " I'm no lunatic as far as I know & it does seem to me that we're going towards the gulag already, one more step should just about kill the "artistic spirit" of Renderosity once & for all, actually that was said too after the last rosityism & will probably be said after the next one too. "to the rapidly dwindling number of sites where child nudity enthusiasts are still allowed to run amok. " I didn't know there were any left at all, unless you count the ones run by the various law enforcement agencies round the world to try catching the kiddy fiddlers with their pants down. "But of course no dissent is allowed in the gulag, since everybody there is required to adhere to the child nudity enthusiast dogma without question." Sounds like Renderosity all over, "you will obey the TOS or else" "It's pretty obvious, by the way, that you forget one important thing. " I forget lots of important things, whats another one matter? "These tactics you use (ridicule, attempts at shame, intimidation) might work to force children to do your bidding, but they only alienate adults. " You have kids do you? you try intimidating them or forcing them to tidy up their rooms if they don't feel like it then you'll know the true meaning of futile. "Those tactics represent the classic profile of a predatory, abusive pedophile, so it's eery how well you guys are able to simulate those tactics, given that you're not pedophiles." Blimey that was quicker than I expected

"You guys just can't let this one go, can you?" Civibus fidelitas in reges, quae tamen aliquoties seditionibus interrupta, multa peperit privilegia. (Winks to Comrade Kawecki and hopes that theres still room left under Xenophones bed so that we both can hide underneath.) ;-) Btw, one argument showing the stupidity of the current TOS that hasnt been mentioned at all, is the fact that it is now impossible to illustrate any technical question regarding any underage shaped mesh with pictures. I created an child-like morph for NEA, but would need to modify some joint paramters to complete it. But its futile to ask for help if I cannot post pictures showing the "problem areas" of my mesh. stahlratte

It's amazing to see in just how many different ways one can say exactly the same things........over and over again. Com'on........I haven't seen anyone use the term "Nazi" yet. That's very disappointing. This type of thread just isn't complete without the term "Nazi", or at least "facist" -- appearing at least 7 or 8 times.

Tiari, I didnt desire to take in serious in this thread. I have posted in another one similar all my thoughts. But really, there are sites that allow all that Rosity dont allow. And they have a store too. If I find a product in both markets, Renderosity and REN-DE-RO-TI-CA, I prefer buy it in the place which isnt constaltly changing its guidelines But the real thing is, as is wrote here, that this isnt a case of morality but of money: the PayPal topic. PayPal can close an internet icon as they did with jennycam.org , for example; and PayPal can close the Rosity account without any trouble if Rosity dont change its TOS. And Rosity change, fcors. And was more honest to say "dear artists, we change our TOS because PayPal is important to us and our MP, etc etc etc" and not suddenly to create a disguise of morality Of course, therere other site. Renderotica allow explicit sex pics, but not nude faitries. deviantArt allows nude fairies but not explicit sex ... Oh. Im serious. This already isnt funny. Bye Unchecking "email when someone replies".-

Civibus fidelitas in reges, quae tamen aliquoties seditionibus interrupta, multa peperit privilegia. (Winks to Comrade Kawecki and hopes that theres still room left under Xenophones bed so that we both can hide underneath.) ;-) Good. We should succeed in getting this thread locked soon. BTW - you wouldn't like it under my bed. Anyone venturing down there is never heard from again..........

"We should succeed in getting this thread locked soon." Why? it's going along just nicely at the moment, no insults or threats of violence from anyone yet.

heh ... locked? NAW! ... all to nice since now here. noone is really ranting ... noone using f**king language ... noone kicking someone else butt ... so no chance to get this locked ;) greets Chris

Why? it's going along just nicely at the moment, no insults or threats of violence from anyone yet. Hmmmmmm.....I suppose that it depends upon how one chooses to define "insult". As for why......it's due to the concrete. In various languages. *********************************************************** I still haven't seen "Nazi" yet. I'm waiting.

oops Chris now you've done it, they'll lock it for sure now.

we should be more VIOLENT here! YES!! who want to start? ;) greets Chris

noone is really ranting Hmmmmmmmm........I suppose that it depends upon how one defines "ranting".

I'm confused now, what's concrete got to do with it? oh & Xeno NAZI!!!!!! happy now?

ROFL

Good. We've gotten to the stage of these types of threads where everyone is hurling insulting "non-insults". Ahhhh.......hopefully, we've just about reached critcal mass here........... *********************************************************** pssssst.......say "Nazi"...........

hey Lucifer ... from where you got that great smilies? greets Chris

oh & Xeno NAZI!!!!!! happy now? YESSSSS!!!!!!!!! That's the way!

Sie fuhrer herr Ricardo wants to know where are the Nazis komrades?

I'm confused now, what's concrete got to do with it? Concrete is often used in construction projects to fill structural voids. Or other types of empty spaces. Perhaps someone can explain it better in Latin.......?

I bought the program GetSmile which comes with about 200-300 of them & I just added a whole load more from round the web in my idle moments of boredom http://www.cosgan.de is one of the best places for some really good looking smilies

hey .. no! dont let this one locked before I dont know where to get that smilies! ;) Greets Chris

"Concrete is often used in construction projects to fill structural voids. Or other types of empty spaces." Ah I knew what concrete is for, I just didn't see how it fitted in with what was being thrashed, now I get it

hey .. no! dont let this one locked before I dont know where to get that smilies! ;) You got your wish. I just added a whole load more from round the web in my idle moments of boredom Yeah. Sort of the same motivation/value equation for threads like this one.

I just didn't see how it fitted in with what was being thrashed Wait a minute.......no one is using insults here. Or so I've been told...........

<-- ROFL ...

thanks Lucifer :)

Greets

Chris

Hey......I like that picture!

It's about a couple of kids meeting three fairies btw ^_^

It's about a couple of kids meeting three fairies btw ^_^ But.......those cylinders aren't wearing any clothes!!!!! Now there's an idea! Problem solved! Excellent! Brilliant! Artists can still post any images that they like! Just replace the human figures with blank cylinders! In this way, the message can still be conveyed without violating the TOS. Now.....that should make everybody happy. Let's have a party to celebrate.

wonders if we will brake 100 posts this time

Greets

Chris

stahlratte, Modellers posting untextured wireframe WIPs of child meshes/morphs/whatever is acceptable. Regards, Karen Poser Moderator

the blue cylinder is naked! we need to discuss TOS about naked cylinders!

greets

Chris

Making post 98, two left for #100

YESSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!

Seig Hail! Seig Hail! Seig Hail! that should get it locked. Come on now I got bets riding on when it'll get locked. ::