Hi Sorry I don't stop by here too often I just don't have the time at present what with commenting in the galleries, work and all :-( Anyway my question is in regards to how I see my images. An example is this photo where the background around the flower is pretty much all black except for a bit of leaf I can see in the top left. I've viewed this same picture on a flatscreen monitor and I can see leaf in the bottom as well as the image appearing to be duller. How does it appear to you? Other photos in my gallery appear the same! Now is this just the difference between viewing images on a flat screen or is it to do with settings?? I just find it a bit disheartening that's all. Your advice please. Thanks Noeline

I use a full sized "tv set" monitor at home and a flat screen at work. Here on the home monitor, I see the object in the upper left, the "two greenish" forms in the lower right and a very slight touch of greenish tone out from "behind" the petal on the lower left. If I get a chance today, I will take a look on the flat screens there. However, color calibrations are surely different in the monitors. I do find flat screen needs a dead on straight view of the screen to get the best.

I'm viewing on a calibrated lcd screen...... I can see some green leaves in the bottom right of the image as well as a bit of green and yellow in the top left..... The whites and colors of the flower though are brilliant.... and don't appear dull to me. sigh It can be very frustrating in knowing that what you see on your monitor after you worked so hard on making it perfect, is not what everyone else may see when you post it online.

That is the facts of monitors... One kind person on 'Rosity pointed out to me how "the edges" of a submitted image were difficult to see. Why? That person had set a different background color on the site. I had failed to think about that part! Some might be viewing on a white field and another on a different color. I keep mine on white here. The two monitors on this desk include one quite old one, not well calibrated but close. The images do look slightly different. As excellent at newer monitors may be, viewing is a variable we cannot control on the other end. My concern for calibration is for images I do to have an accurate transition to print.

My definitely Tom!.... that's how I judge too...... Monitor to Print..... they match.... then it's all good as far as I'm concerned..... But still it would be nice..... :~)

Monitor 1. At work right now with qite a crappy "no-name" CRT-monitor. ( Yeah - my cut-all-costs bossman found this cupon in a Corn Flakes package ...) I do see a hint of a yellow-greenish under vegetation close to the top, some rather dark green-grayish traces of it at bottom right and a slight hint of something around the petals. The petals themselves appear to be white ( with a slight blue-gray cast ), there's some pink to be noted and the brown and yellow tones look rather alright. I'll get back top you with another report when at home. Bakkti.

I am having problems with my monitor calibration wich begins to be aged now! I am missing dark tones and have lack of contrast..The only things I can see is a bit of dark green leaf in the right bottom side and a small gold shade on the left top!

On my two monitors which a both LCD I can see some hints of green and do recognize it as a leaf.On this one seeings how it has a much better graphic card, it is very dark,but crisp. So if you want the back to show I gues that is something to do in postwork. However I do like this look you have here quite a lot.

here's a couple of links you might want to check out for further reference :] Monitor Callibration & Gamma Test Card

Monitor 2. At home now watching the same image in my 22" ViewSonic P225f Diamondtron calibrated with Adobe Gamma - and My God what a difference. The image pops right out of the screen! Alike dBgraphix the image is darker, as to I can't see much of the background more than a bit of yellow-green at imge top and a hint of background in low right corner, but a lot crisper and with full structure definition in the whites. pink tones come out much more nuanced and the yellow-brown's have a pleasent warm "glow". Seeing it in this monitor it's a damn good image with a well defined focus area. Bakkti.

Attached Link: Kort's Site

I see a lot of variation in the background of the image. I have a quick internet fix for you. Click on the link above to go to my website. There is a grayscale chart that will help you adjust your monitor. You should be able to see a variation in each one. Hope that helps. -- Kort

sorry for your frustrations, Noeline! i see a yellow band in the upper left, as well as some green. as i go around counter-clockwise, i see green all the way around. the top right and middle right...i see only 2 hints of green though. i see the leaf on the bottom right. the flower is full of color and NOT dull at all! Noeline, when i first started on RR, i had a CRT monitor. when i got this flat screen...the images in RR looked sooooo much better. and i could finally determine whether my images needed adjustments in brightness and contrast. when i had the CRT i was sooooo frustrated.

I just checked my Sony Trinitron monitor on Kort's site and it passed the greyscale test.. I see stuff in all four corners + some. In the upper left there's a goldish, greenish, and pinkish colored stalk and some out-of-focus spots to its left. In the lower right is bluish green-like grass or leaf between two other less visable shapes of a similar nature, and also a gold like edge of what looks like a leaf. Upper right I see two golden streakish things. Lower left I see a few unfocused white-like spots. I also barely see a pinkish diagonalish streak at the middle top....and I am not on any hallucinagenics, just coffee, and some nicotine ....cough..cough...ugh. Beautiful flower/nice photo. :-) -Jeff

Yes, I did neglect to say the flower itself is lovely and well shot! ;)

i get the same thing ..at my moms house it all lookes differant.. differant moniter shows everything light res.. so i was horrified to find my smudging showed up everywhere like a kindergardners at her house... i wanted to hide under the comput desk got a new comput now .. but heres something i do before i post i always brighten it 50 % to take a peek in paintshop to see the diffeance the go back .. just my lil trick now to make sure ... all moniters are not the same...!! hugs kimmers

....thanks Kort for the greyscale test card..I am currently checking out your cool webe site. -Jeff

Haha, there is not much to check out...mainly links to other online galleries like RO. THanks though. =]

Kimmers, There is a way to set your computer color space to Web color, so that what you see internally is the way it will show up on the web. Don't ask me how to do it for a PC though. ;oP

Morning - well it is here!! Tom - didn't realise you could change the background colour either Cindy & Kort - will try those links Thanks for all your thoughts and advice ... glad I'm not the only one who's had similar problems. OK got to run to work now, will be late ... knew I shouldn't have checked here first!! Noeline :-))

background color can be changed through the top drop down box Member Options- My Profile color space to Web color: check out provided link- Monitor Callibration & Gamma some other good stuff there too :] & geez!!!!!!! i didn't say what a great shot this was either :( the flower looks perfect in clarity & tone on my monitor :]

Cynlee...I just saw those links and adjusted my brightness/contrast a bit w/the test card. I bookmarked the monitor callibration/gamma site and plan on checking it out here...looks like a lot of good info...thanks ;-)

One thing to consider is the graphics card in the computer. I am NOT a computer nerd(sometimes I wish!) but when this pc was built the display control card installed is a Radeon 9600 version. This is a controller, a mini-computer controlling and allowing better speed(video) and color/detail control overall. I am not a "gamer" and they would use the card I have as entry level...still, compared to the factory graphics the difference is real. Most off the shelf computers have the least costly and "just enough to work ok" graphics controllers. An upgrade to a better graphics/video controller will help. You will notice this mostly with imaging needing speed, like games(which I do not do) or with animations. Still, the color control is more precise and accurate. This card did make a difference in my pc. Ram is important for speed more than for color calibration...at work I do the ad pics for the business on PSP on an old Dell with less than 512 ram. So, do a few layers and the whole thing slows down! Ram is cheap compared to the advantages it gives in graphics work when more than a simple job is done. Multiple windows and processes slow things down and work mostly from ram memory. Get more ram and you will be happy for it! The addition is really easy compared to other computer work. Ok, I got off track. This was posted just to let anyone know who needs to know that more ram might help if yours is bogging down and a better than factory graphics card will help with color management...simply more accurate and responsive. If I messed up with any of this advice, let me know...I know mine works really well. Still, I am not a computer tech by any stretch. As mentioned in posts above, the most basic monitor and computer color calibration beats the stuffings out of "out of the box".... Just do it! TomDart.

Tom, it all depends on what is in the box. :-) The computers they sell for "home" or "Internet" or "office" are just ... computers with the cheapest parts the manufacturers could get away with. Yes, for graphics work you need RAM, RAM, RAM and again RAM. I've got a computer with 256 MB at work and working in Photoshop is a pain. At home I've got a gigabyte and everything flies, although the processor is far from being one of the latest generations. Graphics card, I'd recommend Nvidia 6600, if you can afford it. It's not the most expensive top model (6800), but it gives you very nice speed in both games, 3D graphics previews, photography. For not-gaming applications, good card is important because better cards can give you bigger resolution with higher refresh frequency so the image is much stable. About the photo, my monitor here at home is bit on the dark side, but I see quite a lot of stuff in the background. The yellowish-green leaf in the upper left corner, lighter green in the lower right corner, darker green in the lower left corner, even a bit of green in the upper right corner. And the only place the flower appears really blown out is a bit to the right and up from the middle spot. Quite nice range, in other words.

Sounds like I could benefit from more RAM. I just checked and realized I only have 256 MB...I remember installing a new video card a few yrs back. What a huge difference it made for the better. :-)