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Subject: An Overlooked use for Wardrobe Wizard
You should be able to export the parts of the clothing as morph targets. Load the original clothes and then add the morph targets back in and save out. Or, if you have Poser 6, save out with the binary morphs selected in your preferences which will give you a .pmd file for which you can write an injection pose - that pose and .pmd file will be distributable!
Great ideas philebus! Of course my examples were more for individual projects. Not everyone might want to dial the specific morphs to get Aiko looking like that but if you do and can't dress her, WW is the way to go. For example, in Kioki I applied Capsces' Muscled morph at Frame 1 and her Buxom morph at Frame 30. The resulting figure is at Frame 20. I then converted the outfit to that specific body type in a matter of seconds. The whole purpose is to do away with large clothing .cr2s crammed with morphs you will only rarely use and you can just convert on the fly when you need to. Once you've analysed the clothing you don't need to do it again.
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I really can't say as I'm just a user. It's best to check PhilC's site for more information :)
The Demo version covers the P4 and P5 naked adults, and I was trying out some of that today, fitting some P4 clothes to the Lemurtek Second Nature figures -- the males have added muscles even though they're nominally the P4 male. Thanks for pointing out some of the options. I hadn't though of making a morph. Here's another thought -- could WW be used on a figure? Well, yes, I would think. Conforming clothes are figures. But if you took two copies of Posette, used one as the clothes, conformed to the other, and then fitted the mesh to another figure, what would you get? Posette to V3 -- would that be a really low-polygon figure for the background?
I think that this could be a real boon for people who make original morphs. The biggest drawback to date has been the lack of clothes for them - I'm thinking of Blackhearted's excellent work with Stephanie Petite and the Mil Pre-teen. Now .pmd injection files can be created and distributed (freely or for sale) for popular clothing items. Of course, if you have WW, then you won't need to create the injections but there will be a lot of folk who don't buy it that character developers will want to buy their character packs without fear of keeping them naked.
When is it on sale through? I just am swamped but want to get it<< Actually, ghostofmacbeth, it IS on sale right now. It's having an introductory sale price of $39.95 and its regular price will be $59.95. So now is a great time to get it, price-wise. >>If Wizard works for clothes, will it also work for hair (some hair is made as a conforming figure)?<< I believe that it IS supposed to work with hair (or at least, some hair). The only conforming figures it will NOT work with are gloves because different figures have different numbers of fingers. -jjsemp
Yes, it works with hair although I haven't yet tried it but I know from the yahoo group and others who are doing it. onimusha, 1. I brought in Aiko (actually Kioki and loaded all her morphs) 2. I used the script's zero figure button under utility/figure 3. I brought in the clothing I wanted her to wear (Bat's CanGal outfit) 4. Conformed the outfit. 5. Did a "Convert from" and then "as full body w/o head" where WW analyses the outfit. This took about 4 minutes. 6. I deleted the first figure of the outfit and brought in the chaps. 7. Repeated step 5. 8. When all the analysing was done I deleted all clothing. 9. I opened my animation window at the bottom. 10. Then I applied one of Capsces' ready made body poses for Kioki (one of the muscular ones), went to Frame 30 and applied the Heavy body pose - or vice versa, not sure as I was just trying to quickly get a morphed body. I finally set the slider at Frame 20 resulting in the body shape you see above. 11. I brought in the outfit again, one figure at a time and selected it and did a simple "Convert to figure". 12. Before conforming I zoomed in to check various sections and did some smoothing and inflating to get rid of a slight wrinkle in the belt. There are many options here but I won't go into them. 13. Here's where you conform/save the figure to your library, delete and bring in the next. I didn't save this particular conversion as this was an experiment and I had my render. When I do want to use this outfit again either on Aiko or another figure, all I'll have to do is just the two steps 11 and 12 which usually don't take me more than a couple of minutes. Once you have analysed an item of clothing you don't need to do it again this is why I was talking about doing refits on the fly instead of loading a cr2 with morphs. Note: for step 10 you can just set your morphs as you like, inject them right then or even use one of Wyrmmaster's magnet sets. You don't have to do use the animation window or move to any frame, that was just soemthing I did to blend two body types. Sorry for the lack of screencaps, it's almost 3:00 a.m. and all I could manage was this, hope it helps!
I have gotten both regular hair figures and hair hr2's to work with the wizard. Some, like the Sylvan Hair, you have to use the advanced button for. When the hair is long or has different names than usual you just do the convert 'to' a little differently. FYI Ghost, hang around, I got something I want to show you. :-)
Oh yeah, I discovered that myself too. I morphed Michael and then put an outfit M3 outfit on him and the clothing was nearly invisible because of the large change in body shape. I decided to try WW and see if it worked and found it worked great. Now that's all I do when I am trying to fit clothing to a morphed figure. It's much easier and in the end faster in the long run. onimusha, it's easy. Just do the normal clothing analysis on the base figure. Then inject your character morphs and do the "convert to", and it will fit the clothing to that morph injected figure. You might have to do some smoothing on various parts of the clothing, but that's easy to do by using "smooth all" on the body part of the clothing in question.
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able to know ourselves fully as we
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If you live in Canada, I highly suggest you get it while it's on sale, even if you have to borrow the funds to do it. I just got my statement showing the exchange charge, and it cost me $51.13 CAD after currency exchange. Worth the price, but it sure sucks to end up paying more for the item than those across an invisible line a stones throw away from me.
I would not have been able to buy it had it been full price because that would have cost me $75.00 CAD after exchange.
Message edited on: 06/15/2005 22:27
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
I believe they do plan on supporting it, it's just a matter of them only being able to work on one figure at a time and it takes time to go through them all. I think PhilC and Kamilche plan on incorporating all characters eventually. In the meantime there are so many characters supported that it's a great product already even if they don't add anymore in.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Well fitting original clothes to morphed charachters was the main reason I bought WW. Unfortunately I am working on a project with morphed Jessie, and I use DNA morphs which work only on HiRes Jessie...And WW does not support HiRes Jessie yet...
But when it does, it will be my Number one :) By the way, I have both CC 2.2 And WW (yes I was desperate to finish the project) CC can handle morphed HiRes Jessie but it takes a lot of time to calculate and it is really hard (I mean that) to use. After seeing how WW works, I decided to wait for the HiRes jessie update and uninstalled CC 2.2. I have used none for cross-figure conversation so I would not comment on that aspect.
Message edited on: 06/16/2005 01:48
I'm not sure about that. I would think that the V3 to V2 figure would work, but again, I don't know. I'm new to this program too and wasn't involved in the beta or reading the group messages during that time either. I'm having a bit of trouble converting V2 clothing to V3 or SP3, but I think it's because my files are compressed. I'm doing some testing right now to figure out what the problem is. Hang in there, and I'll let you know my findings in the WW group where I've been posting. Analyzing the uncompressing the clothing file and converting to V3 and SP3 is going to be my next test.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Feia, I just did a conversion from a V2 Dress using the "V3 to V2" figure that you get with the V3 package, and it worked. I haven't tried anything with a hood though, but the body part seems to work ok. Also, my problem wasn't compressed files, it was something corrupt in my poser 5. I did a fresh install of Poser 5 and I was able to convert from and convert to, using all compressed files for the clothing and figures.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
Feia, the Wardrobe Wizard Yahoo Group (access it from Phil's site), has an area where some people post their analysis files for various clothing from different figures. If you find an analysis file for an outfit you have, you won't need the original figure at all. You only need the original figure if you want to do a "convert from" and create an analysis. So long as you have the clothing, and the analysis file, you can convert to any figure that Wardrobe Wizard supports.
"It is good to see ourselves as
others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we
are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not
angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to
say." - Ghandi
It occurs to me that anyone producing clothes should think about including a Wardrobe Wizard analysis file in the package. Some people sell cheap, with multiple versions sold seperately for different figures. At $2 or $3 a time, it hardly seems worth the customer buying WW. Other, expensive, V3-only, products, WW looks well worth buying. I think I may have sold it to myself :) But I'll do a bit more with the Demo, over the weekend.
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While converting clothing from one figure to another is it's strongest point and primary purpose, Wardrobe Wizard is also great for refitting clothing to the same figure it was meant for but when morphed. For example, a totally remorphed Aiko utilising several FBM's, other PBM's and even custom morphs will take hours to transfer from the figure to the clothing in Tailor. If it's not meant for a commercial item and you just need to fit a specific clothing item on that morphed figure, WW is definitely the way to go. You just analyze the clothing (all clothing I've analyzed so far has taken from 2-9 minutes with an average of 4-5) and then convert to your new morphed figure (a matter of seconds!) The options to smooth, inflate, etc the mesh also help give you a smoother fit since nothing can be done about the wrinkling that is sometimes caused in morphs from Tailor (short of tweaking them with magnets, etc) Of course I'm not uninstalling Tailor but if it's just for personal use then WW will be my first choice for the time it saves! Oh, and no-one's paying me to say this, I'm just a very, very happy user :)