facepalm The Poser 6 Reference Manual is like, the second-best doorstop ever. I keep going to it, hoping it'll tell me something helpful. Instead, I get gems like "Ignore Feet Collisions: Checking the Ignore Feet Collisions checkbox causes the collision detection not to apply when the cloth collides with a figure's feet." Yeah, thanks. Ugh.

Unfortunately, the only halfway decent Poser manuals are still "coming soon". There are a few that show promise but they still have yet to see the light of day. For now, just do every tutorial you can get your hands on. That's not much, but it's better than nothing...

P6 revealed isn't too bad

I have two door stops, front and back door, "Poser 6 Reference Manual" and "Poser 6 Revealed: The Official Guide" respectivly :(

I said it wasn't too bad, I didn't say it was the best thing ever. So sorry to have an opinion.

Who is ranking on you MaryK? You had a totally different opinion then I do but I would never suggest it is unfounded or unreasonable, it just isn't mine. I totaly apologize if you felt attacked by my opinion... I can perfectly accept that you are right and I am wrong. I am just mouthing off what I felt about it... totaly burned for the $50USD I had to spend to get it internationally only to find "Level:Begining" in small print on the jacket after desperately trying to wring some use from what lay between the covers. I have indicated elsewhere that the book is very nicely written and organized, and I am sure it will be helpfull to novices, no doubt actually. But having used Poser, albeit clumsily, since Poser 2 I just feel compeled to tell the Poser community members who have some experience and can't just tos away money that if they have used any prior version Poser this book will be a waste of money, only in my humble opinion of course. If someone would take this mint condition jem off my hands for $20 I would suddenly feel nearly only half as burned as I do now. I am disabled without public assistance or pension and my few dollars are hard earned doing commercial work so much as my Parkinson's permits and I feel the book was misrepresented to me at Amazon and in the CL literature.I just wish I had blown the $50 toward SP3 or something. I repeat: The book is great and just right for new users. I am sorry MaryK -------------------------------------------------------- P.S. The fact that it is unlikly we are actually putting relativly light books to use as doorstops suggest that maybe out comments were "in jest" and the emoticon might also be an indication to not take the text too seriously :) Anyway, don't get turned off the forum by rude folks like me.