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Subject: Renda vs V3 -- brawling bimbos or secretly sisters ?

sixus1 opened this issue on Jun 28, 2005 · 430 posts
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Bobbie25 ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:13 AM

ok 0.0 ty hun i think i get it know but to rerigg it would that be a ok thing to do at this point?

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karanta ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:14 AM

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Hawkfyr ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:16 AM

Dang...and here I was gunna try and get to bed early tonight. Oh well...I still have a bag or two of popcorn left from the other thread. Kick the tires and light the fires.

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DCArt ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:17 AM

Hmmmm ... Rerigging Renda at this point so that she did not use V3's JP's would also mean that her proportions would have to change. That means one of two things ... (1) Keep the mesh as-is and change the joint placement. But what that would do would make Renda's proportions unrealistic. Her forearms could be short and her upper arms long, for example. (2) Redo the OBJ file so that it is not identical to V3's ... and then create entirely new JP's. The JP's are the most time consuming part of figure creation. So either way, it will be back to the drawing board.


ynsaen ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:18 AM

Coming soon: the all new and improved Renda Cr2 -- free for previous buyers, 25 higher for new purchasers... Plus, all new morph expansion packs. Renda as a Male! And introducing the RPublishing line of UltraMesh (sm) figures: BigGuy, ToonGal, and Minime! Get 'em while they're hot! (there is no such thing as bad publicity....)

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)

lobo75 ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:19 AM

Bookmark, someone pass the rum baracardi 151. This is gonna be a ride.

lairemjd ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:21 AM

someone pass the rum baracardi 151. This is gonna be a ride.

Here I'm willing to share.. want a comfy seat too?

Lyrra ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:21 AM

well as I see it we have a couple issues here mesh violation, joint setup violation and cr2 (delta channel) violation erm .. thats a pretty big pile to sweep under the carpet. leave a bit of a lump.


Bobbie25 ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:22 AM

aww Deecey thats kind sad to hear but ty for the post on it and kuroyume0161 as well ty for helping me understand

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brynna ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:23 AM · edited Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:30 AM
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Now who has the popcorn??

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Here ya go!

Hang in there, Gabe. You know where to find me if you need to rant. :-)

*Ironbear Enterprises can even supply fresh BBQ sauce.

Always did love a good roast.

Watching this cluster fuck with great interest...

Brynna, suddenly realizing she's replied to both IB and BH in the same thread... what's the world a comin' too? Message edited on: 06/29/2005 00:30

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maxxxmodelz ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:25 AM

"(there is no such thing as bad publicity....)" Sure there is. Just ask "Wacko Jacko" how he thinks his next CD will do. ;-P

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Posermatic ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:25 AM

"And introducing the RPublishing line of UltraMesh (sm) figures: BigGuy, ToonGal, and Minime!" Just hilarious!!!!!

kuroyume0161 ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:28 AM

Whoever edited the Renda JPs to not be so close to Victoria's was sloppy. Most of the SFZs are not identical (didn't check for closeness, just exact matches). Here's one missed because it's a child joint redundancy in the lCollar body part (line 32142 in Renda.cr2, line 61785 in Victoria 3.cr2): sphereMatsRaw 0.038581 0.0640216 0 0 -0.155028 0.0934237 -0.0107795 0 -0.00381902 0.00230144 0.0748703 0 0.183549 0.564662 -0.0541403 1 0.241752 -0.0770402 0 0 0.0304346 0.0955034 0.0224728 0 -0.00670986 -0.0210555 0.0985675 0 0.239794 0.565012 -0.010442 1 These are identical between the two files. I count around 33 matching sphereMatsRaws (plus many more partial matches).

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lobo75 ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:29 AM

"someone pass the rum baracardi 151. This is gonna be a ride. Here I'm willing to share.. want a comfy seat too? " Yes please, I've got my woobie in tow.

ynsaen ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:31 AM

"Sure there is. Just ask "Wacko Jacko" how he thinks his next CD will do. ;-P " better than Ashlee Simpson's?

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)

lairemjd ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:33 AM

"someone pass the rum baracardi 151. This is gonna be a ride. Here I'm willing to share.. want a comfy seat too? " Yes please, I've got my woobie in tow. - lobo75 scoots over Rum, Popcorn.. Okay who's got my cheesecake!

DCArt ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:35 AM

No cheesecake. But I've got some cannoli's!


elizabyte ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:35 AM

Okay who's got my cheesecake! Just look in the Pinpus Gallery. ;-) bonni

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lobo75 ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:35 AM

Renda does. HA! Better make sure it is homemade and not resold CheeseCake Factory made.

ducks under desk

Mahray ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:36 AM

I'm cooking up a batch of scones...

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lobo75 ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:37 AM

SCONES.............

lairemjd ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:41 AM

Okay who's got my cheesecake!
Just look in the Pinpus Gallery. ;-)

OHhhh nooo not that kinda cheesecake :)

Better make sure it is homemade and not resold CheeseCake Factory made.

roflmao

ynsaen ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:43 AM

"The dials are simply hidden channels for future morph development so that a new CR2 file wouldnt have to be issued. The names that mimic the DAZ channels are being removed and replaced with PBMCC_xx empty channels. There isnt any morph data in the Renda.CR2 file from DAZ only empty channel names." Strange. What are all these little "delta" thingies in my copies of renda? That haven't been saved back to the library -- or even been opened in poser? Oh!!! I know!!! it's those bunnies and butterflies!!! They're always so cheerfully silly like that! Or maybe its the smoke being blown... NAH. oOOH -- DAFFODILS!!!

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)

Peshkwe ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:43 AM

Okay who's got my cheesecake! Just look in the Pinpus Gallery. ;-) bonniOk...Is that like where the hormonal teen zombie boys go to gawk?

kuroyume0161 ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:43 AM

Sweets with Rum!? I'd rather some good salty snacks - cashews, popcorn, trail mix anyone? ;)

C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, you blow your whole leg off.

 -- Bjarne Stroustrup

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DCArt ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:43 AM

Just look in the Pinpus Gallery. ;-) What's a pinpus? 8-D (ducks and runs)


rain ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:44 AM

......

brynna ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:45 AM
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Peshkwe ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:46 AM

ynsaen... It's dat klown that got woke up on the wrong side o' da bed awhile back doing magic tricks with the long baloons ;)

maxxxmodelz ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:46 AM

"better than Ashlee Simpson's?" Think "Milli Vanilli", ynsaen. ;-)

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elizabyte ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:47 AM

pinpus Oh, it's an Australian native animal. It's kinda like a platypus, but with pointy bits like a porcupine. whew bonni

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DCArt ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:47 AM

LMAO!!!! Good recovery, Bonni!


pdxjims ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:48 AM

Wheee!!!!!! Canoli's! Advice to people who have Renda and want the V3 morphs to work on her: Use the Tailor. If she has that many verts in common, and her shape is nearly identical, then copying the morphs from V3 to Renda should work pretty well. I don't have her, or I'd do the test.

lairemjd ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:49 AM

Just look in the Pinpus Gallery. ;-) >>What's a pinpus? 8-D (ducks and runs) Me thinks Bonni has gotten to the rum before us Lobo wink (yes I know I'm slow on catching the obvious since i had already replied to it LOL)

Taria ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:52 AM

you guys are to funny, I'm having side aches here reading these things you guys are writing. Of course I have nothing important to say about the cr2 cause well to be honest. I'm a moron on those matters. Don't do coding and won't touch it for fear of screwing it up...lol

lairemjd ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:56 AM

*** Oh, it's an Australian native animal...... ooooh bonni nice save.. can we get pictures? grins

lobo75 ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:58 AM

Bonni, give it back I requested it first!

lobo75 ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 12:58 AM

Dont request pictures, she'll find one.

Taria ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 1:00 AM

elbows Lobo toss it here bonnie we can play keep away with Lobo...

Mahray ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 1:03 AM

Very rare creature, lives down in Tasmania with the Dropbears. Haven't been any photos in a while, they're nocturnal and very camera-shy.

Come visit us at RenderGods.

Ignore the shooty dog thing.

DCArt ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 1:04 AM

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I'll be damned ... look what I found in Oooogle!


ynsaen ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 1:07 AM

damns deecey wow... You were right!

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)

lairemjd ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 1:07 AM

ohhh so it's a cousin to the snipe???

lobo75 ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 1:08 AM

< cries>

ynsaen ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 1:10 AM · edited Wed, 29 June 2005 at 1:13 AM

only very distantly.

They have the same evolutionary forebear, an early assheaded numbskull, but diverged sometime in the Cretinesque period...

Message edited on: 06/29/2005 01:13

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)

Taria ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 1:11 AM

don't cry lobo, I was messin. I'm going to bed anyway, you lot are way to funny for me to stay awake....LOL

kuroyume0161 ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 1:15 AM

Isn't the snipe a native North American animal, usually only hunted at night with a sack? Hmmmm....

C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do, you blow your whole leg off.

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ynsaen ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 1:17 AM

Yeah -- that's the snipe. There are relatives on every continent and a few isolated islands. The boojums are reputed to be close kin...

thou and I, my friend, can, in the most flunkey world, make, each of us, one non-flunkey, one hero, if we like: that will be two heroes to begin with. (Carlyle)

lairemjd ( ) posted Wed, 29 June 2005 at 1:17 AM

******* < cries> comforts lobo meanies.. here a spare bottle :) but shhhhh don't tell them :)

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