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Subject: Something I would very much Like to give to the community


Darth_Logice ( ) posted Fri, 16 February 2001 at 10:46 PM · edited Tue, 26 November 2024 at 6:29 AM

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This is "Very Vicky," something I have been working on for quite some time. During her production, a number of things happened. Traveller pulled all of his (and other's) Morphs from Morph World for his own reasons. He has stated he does not want them redistributed. In the aftermath, other people's contributions that were, at one time, free, are being considered for sale. So, here's a bunch of hard work feasibly down the tube. Good for me, of course, to use, but it looks like I won't be able to share her. However, a lot of the work here is in fact all mine. All the faces, naturally, and the body adjustments I did with magnets. I may be able to cut her down to just my work and go from there, and the shaplier body will still be in place and all the various faces. Some of you are saying "Wow, Madonna sure is ugly" or some of the other faces. That is because all these test renders were done with all head scaling and tapering set to Zero. Some of them need to be tapered and scaled for maximum likeness. A few of the faces, like Shayda and Carrie, Ariana are not celeb types at all, just my creations. Anyway, let me know what you think. My original intention was to release her because she's loaded with morphs all over. A great deal of that purpose is defeated. -Darth_Logice


Lady Cherry ( ) posted Fri, 16 February 2001 at 11:22 PM

Keep up the good work. Any help to the community will be very muchly appreciated. Please if you would like to discuss it at all please feel free to icq me. My icq # is 7484243 thank you.


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Xena ( ) posted Fri, 16 February 2001 at 11:28 PM

Wow, Darth, you have put so much work into this. And it's fantastic. This Vicki is something I personally would love to have. I hate having to morph my own stuff, and this is the kind of thing that would have helped me out so much. Have you talked to Trav about releasing this? Cheers, Xena


Butch ( ) posted Fri, 16 February 2001 at 11:29 PM

Gods, I am in love. She is beautiful... I hope that you do figure some way to share her. I for one would love to have her. I got Vickie and downloaded all the morphs that I could for her and she still looks like vickie. Your vickie is great. Keep up the great work and let us know if you can share her. In the meantime, I got to quit drooling over my keyboard....


Darth_Logice ( ) posted Fri, 16 February 2001 at 11:43 PM

Wow, on second look, it's really amazing how horrid some of those faces look without their proper scaling/tapering! The hair sure does add or take away too. Hm. Thanks for all the kind words. I should add that I always intended her to be free. There are a couple of issues, such as the body stretching messed with the feet a bit, when they go to bend, they can do interesting things sometimes. Interesting but not at all desirable, Im afraid. I have not spoken to Traveller or any of the others whose work is attached to her in some way. I don't really know how to proceed, to be honest. It's incredibly bad timing, mostly due to the Morph World incident. On another front, I may have offended someone with critique, so it's looking grim on those fronts. We'll see what happens over the next week or so so I can determine what direction to take the project in. One thing, if anybody knows the answer, could help... Does a full body morph still work if you remove the morphs you spawned it from? If nobody knows, I'll try and see tomorrow. -Darth


Fox-Mulder ( ) posted Fri, 16 February 2001 at 11:45 PM

You're destined to be in the Poser Hall of Fame, Darth!


soulsong ( ) posted Sat, 17 February 2001 at 3:43 AM

Darth, what you have done is simply amazing. An aesthetically pleasing Vicky!! Having struggled for weeks with trying to change her into something vaguely human, I can appreciate the enormous amount of creative talent and sheer vision that you poured into this project. My advice to you would be to contact Trav directly and discuss this matter with him. He is one of the genuinely good human beings that I have had the pleasure to encounter online. If nothing else, you would at least know for sure where you stand. As I recall, Trav's stance on the morphs has always been that they could be used for any purpose at all, personal or commercial. Whether he has modified that in the case of these withdrawn morphs for Vicky, I do not know. But please do pursue this issue. You have done far too much wonderful work to just let it go. Needless to say, I am selfish in my motives here. I very much would welcome this precious Vicky into my own images. A world of possibility opens up with her. Thank you so very much for at least showing us what she is capable of. Best of luck!


Jaager ( ) posted Sat, 17 February 2001 at 5:39 AM

A full body morph is not really a morph as such. It is a program trick that allows one dial to set several individual morph dials at once. If you delete the constitutent morphs, the FBM will not work. I will restate my position on the issue of morph distribution: I would prefer that my individual morphs not be distributed as an "all morph" figure. However, if they are used to create a specific character, the constitutent morphs should be combined into a single morph (MM4 being very reliable for this) and the construction morphs then deleted. This new morph is the creation of the author - it does not matter where the morphs that made it up originated - just as long as it is more than one morph. This reflects a new vision. The author is free to sell or give away this morph as he sees fit. There is no point in providing the morphs in the first place , if this is not allowed. This is their purpose.


gryffnn ( ) posted Sat, 17 February 2001 at 7:47 AM

Wow, Cordelia is amazing - knew her right off.


Darth_Logice ( ) posted Sat, 17 February 2001 at 7:52 AM

Thanks Gryffnn, a lot of the other ones are pretty darned close too, but not as they're shown here, unfortunately. Each character has their own unique head scaling/tapering requirements that I chose to leave off here. When they are all properly done up, and with the right hair, they are mostly as good as Cordy, and even Cordy gets better :) -Darth


soulsong ( ) posted Sat, 17 February 2001 at 8:38 AM

I cannot get over the body. I keep coming back to look at how beautiful this woman of many faces really is!


Ghostofmacbeth ( ) posted Sat, 17 February 2001 at 9:25 AM

Looks good :)



pack ( ) posted Sat, 17 February 2001 at 9:39 AM

Excellent. great work on faces. Sorely needed your touches.


RadArt ( ) posted Sat, 17 February 2001 at 10:49 AM

What an incredible presentation, and what awsome potential this all has!! Way to go Darth, very impressive indeed! Your a grand musician and a poser scholar for sure ;-)


nfredman ( ) posted Sat, 17 February 2001 at 11:42 AM

Darth, this is a lovely offering. i'd adore having her for my own! You and Ingrid of Handspan Studios have both made Vicki much more feminine and real. (Well, Vicki was just a tabula rasa to begin with, and meant to be worked on.) But the celeb morphs are sweet. (i can see how they need scaling, true.) Been following your work there, and tried not to weep too loudly when Traveler set out his new Morph World policy, for all i didn't understand it. Thanks for your hard work! See what you can do about releasing her. Talk to Traveler.


willf ( ) posted Sat, 17 February 2001 at 11:50 AM

Nice work & great presentation, keep it up.


rain ( ) posted Sat, 17 February 2001 at 12:04 PM

I hope you can work out the issues. I'd love to have her! Great work! Claire


polartech ( ) posted Sat, 17 February 2001 at 4:11 PM

Awesome Darth - that`s a body to die for ;-) Hope you get to release her soon... !!


Darth_Logice ( ) posted Sat, 17 February 2001 at 4:42 PM

Wow, getting all misty here, it's like the old days at Renderosity where people showed support and encouraged. This is great! Okay, here's the plan... I'm going to have to spawn morphs for the body shaping and re-integrate them into a fresh cr2, then add the face morphs. It'll be up to you all to already have the Jaager remapping and genital morphs, pubic hair prop and texture maps. Very Vicky is using Jaager's Judy Maps and miscellaneous textures in this example pic. The hair comes from "Chloe" and I believe it's based on Victoria Flip hair from Zygote. You'll have the basic body shape morphs and the face morphs to play with. All morphs should and will be adjusted from the "Body" morphs, so it'll be easy to mix and match and get various results not pictured here. She's real fun to play with in that regard. It'll just be finding a host when I've got that done. -Darth


grahamjames ( ) posted Sat, 17 February 2001 at 5:27 PM

Darth this is absolutely awesome and it is very generous of you to offer this hard work for free. I hope you can get it all worked out and find some way to post her. The character morphs you do are damn close in my opinion, I wish I had a fraction of your talent. It was a sad day indeed when Trav pulled his Vicky morphs. -Graham


Ironbear ( ) posted Mon, 19 February 2001 at 6:07 AM

Fantastic! Man, Darth... you do good work. I'm impressed. Hope you can work out all the destails and fine tuning - I'd actually go out and buy vickie just to be able to use this model.

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WarriorDL ( ) posted Mon, 19 February 2001 at 9:56 AM

This is available in Freestuff now, hosted by yours truly.


Ironbear ( ) posted Mon, 19 February 2001 at 10:21 AM

Cool. Thanks, WDL. ;]

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