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Subject: Question - Too Dark?


DHolman ( ) posted Mon, 18 July 2005 at 1:22 AM · edited Thu, 23 January 2025 at 3:47 AM

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Hey guys ... 11.5 hrs on my feet today for the cutover. I don't even wanna talk about it. :/

Anyway, finishing up the Moonday images I'm working on and I came to this one. The full size image looks great on my screen. So, then I go and print it out and it's really dark. Now I'm trying to figure out why. Yea, I'm 1 day overdue for a calibration, but this was really dark. Before I go running all around trying to figure out what's up, wondered if you guys could tell me if this looks too dark?

Thanks ...

-=>Donald


cynlee ( ) posted Mon, 18 July 2005 at 1:30 AM

could probably pull more detail out of the wings(?)... i do see the seperation of the 3 blacks... it's close & the skin tone doesn't need any lightening at all but my monitor is lighter then most


Alpha ( ) posted Mon, 18 July 2005 at 1:55 AM

yes... too dark. I am not sure if it is intentional or not, but a lot of yellow overtones in this image also. Maybe pulling some of the black out of the yellows would tone down the yellows and lighten it also. Might be worth a try anyway just to see what happens.


dtp ( ) posted Mon, 18 July 2005 at 6:09 AM

is not to dark or what is just cool as it is put the subject number 1 if 2 bright might the ayes get distracted. bye Don...


gwfa ( ) posted Mon, 18 July 2005 at 6:12 AM

agree with Alpha about the yellow, but for me it's not too dark - on screen at least...


Gerald



imarend ( ) posted Mon, 18 July 2005 at 6:44 AM · edited Mon, 18 July 2005 at 6:47 AM

"The full size image looks great on my screen. So, then I go and print it out and it's really dark."

Seems to be a color mode conversion.
The photo on screen is in RVB.
The printed photo will be in CMJN.

Print in CMJN an RVG photo or picture usually make it darker.

Message edited on: 07/18/2005 06:47


DHolman ( ) posted Mon, 18 July 2005 at 7:12 AM

Thanks for looking guys. I know it gets confusing whenever you ask "How does that look?" on the net. Oh for the day when web browsers are all color managed and every monitor comes with built in hardware calibration. Will need to do a calibration to see for sure, but the yellow/orange of the image is probably close to where it should be. Looking back at the PS version of this, it's probably 3-4% a little more yellow than I like (can see it better in this light). This is shot under tungsten with color temperature shifted 7-800K higher to catch the warmer glow of that light.

My gut is telling me I have a problem somewhere else and not in the image. Looking at it now while not half asleep, I can see the pattern detail in her suit in this. It's a black on black pattern. If I can see that as well as the tiny feathers on the edges of the wings then I'm probably around where I should be.

My workflow is fully hardware calibrated, that's what's got me worried. My prints match my screen 99% of the time. If it had just shifted the color, I could understand that - would probably mean I had a bunch of colors outside my printers gamut. Don't know why it was so dark .. Blah.

Imarend - Don't think so. Even though consumer printers always show the inks as CMYK based, the vast majority (as in all but a very few specialized printers) are RGB devices at the printer driver level. No matter what you send it, it will convert it before printing to its native RGB workspace. My entire workflow is AdobeRGB based - everything from my camera to Photoshop to my printer is in the AdobeRGB space.

:/ Hate mystery crap that comes up from nowhere.

-=>Donald


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