.... most likely. I'm just tired of the many people misreading post and flaming because of it. I'm tired of all the predujice around here. I'm tired of people who try to give their view being told to shut up. I'm tired of all the cheaply done naked and hardly dressed vickies, needing to spend hours to find a good, inspirational image which took a lot of effort to create. I'm tired of all the crowd following. I'm tired of brilliant images not getting the credit they deserve. Mostly, I'm tired of the fact that only certain people are allowed the express their visions and feelings while others cannot do so. Guess I'll stop posting around here for a while and perhaps only put my images in the galleries, if I feel like it.

Take a vacation from here and do things you enjoy. You'll come back refreshed, and you'll find it's much easier here if you don't take things too seriously - don't let things rile you.

It sure would be sad to see you go. Your work in your galleries shows the determination you have and long hours you put into your images. But I agree with mateo, sometimes you just need a break for a little while, and you can't take things so to heart. People here are great, but you do have some that, well, are just not nice. Hope to see you back soon. Sharen

aeilkema relax, don't get mad! Geez, what a bad temper! ---just kidding! I understand you very well, I don't post too much because of the same reason so welcome to "The fencers" :)

This is a web site, not the real world. Take your outrage and turn it into a positive energy that may change the real world around you.

Definitely take a respite and come back if you feel better about it. One has to remember that -> this stuff <- is only text. It is very difficult to convey context, emotion, and other subtle nuances typing in a forum. And this often leads to misunderstanding. My biggest beef is how slow these forums are. I like to get it and out quickly so that more important work can be done. Not much to be done about the restrictions imposed upon us, though. It's not our website (per se), so we don't have a Democratic say in how it is operated.

Don't worry, take a deep breath and go render something much better than all those nekkid Vickies in temples. I only post here when somebody asks for help and I know the solution - or to say "thanks" for some news, info or useful link. I usually don't post my opinions, because I hate flame wars, and most likely I would get misunderstood too - it's easier to use your native language to express your feelings, and English is not one for me. Just hang on there and keep making art :-)

"Mostly, I'm tired of the fact that only certain people are allowed the express their visions and feelings while others cannot do so." Funny how that happened just today. 8 )~ I know exactly how you feel. Tom

somehow I doubt we will get that lucky based on the number of times you have been leaving Daz "forever".

Hi aeilkema, your post doesn't surprise me. Youve been sounding pretty stressed lately I thought, and I did notice you took a bit of a hammering on the copyright forum a couple of weeks ago just for asking an innocent question. Well I hope you do come back soon. Maybe just lurk for awhile hehe. Love esther PS I think the half naked vickies are kind of funny really.

"somehow I doubt we will get that lucky based on the number of times you have been leaving Daz "forever". "

I guess you won't be lucky then, by the way I hardly ever visit DAZ and even participate much less in their forums.

Because of your remark I've decided to stay for a while longer. If you want me to leave that badly, I'd better stay, since I migfht miss a lot of fun when not hanging around anymore. It really sounds like you can use some excitement in your forum visits, we wouldn't want this place to become dull and boring, now would we?

Besides, a good number of people have asked me not to leave, seems like I'm not alone at all. Message edited on: 08/30/2005 16:06

So - what you are saying is that you were leaving because you don't like the bad attitudes, but you're gong to stay because you didn't like someone's bad attitude towards you?

LOL - oh puhleese. That's just priceless.

And these posts are never ignored, there is this ingrained fear that if people don't say something nice to the seemingly depressed person posting it the poster will do something awful. Frankly I think they should be - if only because of the poster's intentions.

These posts are generally an attention seeking device by the poster to say "I'm leaving" then of course people will post for them not to go, soothe their egos (even though often times they don't even know the poster and in a few days could care less).

Come or go - don't care, but don't follow the usual behaviour of leaving and then coming back or not leaving because others convinced you not to. Just go or don't post that you are.

Message edited on: 08/30/2005 21:03

Gosh LadySilverMage that's a bit rough. She did say she was only thinking of leaving and obviously she's a little stressed at the moment. I'm sure everyone posts these sorts of messages for different reasons. Even Dr Geep once posted one, and no one thought for a moment that it was attention seeking. Lets be nice. I'd hate to see anyone leave here. It's the diversity of opions here that make the forum so interesting - even your message hehe. I don't want aeilkema to leave - and there's nothing wrong with needing a little attention now and then anyway. Love esther

Actually I did think it was a attenttion seekig - whenever anyone posts these "waaah I'm leaving forever" (where is that pic Questor uses...) I don't "want" aeilkema to leave either, I don't care one way or the other frankly, don't know the person excpet from the leaving forever posts at DAZ in the past as well. But come on, it is pretty ironic that the person is leaving because of bad atttudes and then chooses to stay to spite a bad attitude. It's actually a bit funny.

well there's all different sorts of bad attitude and she did say that that particular person was only one of the reasons she changed her mind. I don't know her or you either but I like all the different posts here. what would this place be without all the people? I must have a pretty pathetic little life because everyday I look forward to visiting the renderosity forum and I'm sure you and aeilkema also enjoy it here - well anyway I hope you all stay!!!! Love esther