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Subject: How do I start?


FoxSpirit ( ) posted Sat, 17 September 2005 at 2:01 PM · edited Mon, 04 November 2024 at 4:03 PM

I'm a noobie, and I dont know what to buy first. I dont have a lot of money, so I need some thing cheap but effective. Any recomendations?


Jumpstartme2 ( ) posted Sat, 17 September 2005 at 2:16 PM

Ummmm...we gotta know what you are asking about before we can recommend something.... Are you talking about software, Poser items, models....?

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mateo_sancarlos ( ) posted Sat, 17 September 2005 at 2:17 PM

Buy Poser Artist - it's a good entry-level 3D app.


SndCastie ( ) posted Sat, 17 September 2005 at 2:24 PM

If you are talking Poser Poser Artist is the place to start there is also DazStudio which is free as of right now. If you are talking landscapes then Bryce is one of the cheapest. SndCastie


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FoxSpirit ( ) posted Sat, 17 September 2005 at 2:28 PM

I really dont know. :( I jus need something to get me started that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.


Elminster_ZK ( ) posted Sat, 17 September 2005 at 2:52 PM

I would go fore Vue Easel (www.e-onsoftware.com) From what I hear, it's not as powerful as Vue 5, but for a starter, a good intro. I also think that Bryce is a good choice, though Vue Easel is cheaper. Those are both more landscapes and objects rather than people, so it depends what you want. For people, you can't beat Poser.

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andytw ( ) posted Sat, 17 September 2005 at 3:50 PM · edited Sat, 17 September 2005 at 4:01 PM

What you need to get really depends on what you want to do.
If your interest is landscapes then Terragen/Bryce/Vue are all good.
If it's the human figure then Daz or Poser.
If its 3D modelling then there are lots of options from Blender (free) to 3DS Max/Maya/XSI (lots of money).

Probably the only essential is a good "photo editing" program i.e. Gimp/Paint Shop Pro/Photoshop.

I'd suggest looking at the galleries here, if there something similar to what you want to do then try the demo for that program, though it's worth remembering that the talent of the artist is as important as the program used in most cases. Edited to add: Some programs (i.e. Terragen) have free versions for non comercial use or are free open source (i.e. Blender). There are also often older (full) versions of programs on magazine cover disks which are a good route into graphic art.

Message edited on: 09/17/2005 16:01


FoxSpirit ( ) posted Sat, 17 September 2005 at 4:43 PM

Thanks a lot!
You guys have been a lot of help. :)
If you get any new ideas feel free to send 'em.


BDC ( ) posted Mon, 19 September 2005 at 12:50 AM

Awww come on jumps, cut the noobie some slack, they can't help it they assumed we all know they mean 3d applications and not baking. LOL

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dendrobium ( ) posted Mon, 19 September 2005 at 9:33 AM

As a relative newbie myself (two years) I started with Photoshop Elements, which hasnt got so may whistles and bells and full photoshop, but is very user friendly (and cheap!) In fact I still havent upgraded cause it does most of what I need in 2D. I only originally was planning to do montage/clipart work, but soon realised 3D was the way to go for me. I quickly added Poser 5 to my toolbox, which is invaluable, and Bryce for landscapes. Id recommend the above as a starter kit, maybe pay the extra for Vue5 if you can, but youll probably find poser will do most to start with. I still dont feel the need to upgrade to anything as expensive as Maya, free download programs like Anima8tor and UV maper can do most of the extra tweaks and simple models you might want to start with. Better to start with less software so you can explore it and build up from there than blow a fortune and find you work better with something else. Many of the programs have free trial downloads you can download to try before you buy, and Id really recommend that! Nothing worse than spending money on something you cant work with. Mostly it takes time to play with all this software, and to make some mistakes, the software will do a lot, but its no substitute for time learning however much or little you spend on software.


Jumpstartme2 ( ) posted Mon, 19 September 2005 at 11:04 AM

** Awww come on jumps, cut the noobie some slack** Heh, heh, I 'was' cutting some slack >:D Everyone knows Jumpy is EVIL Bwwhhhahahaha Seriously tho, demo's are the way to go to begin with FoxSpirit. As was stated before, why pay for something you can't get your head around..test stuff out, see what works for you, and go from there ;)

~Jani

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bonestructure ( ) posted Mon, 19 September 2005 at 11:51 AM

As far as 2D graphics, the programs GIMP and Pixia are both free. There are also a lot of free 3D programs available like Wings3D and others. Pixia http://park18.wakwak.com/~pixia/ GIMP http://www.gimp.org/ Aeliom http://www.iluac.com/aeliom/index.html Art Rage http://www.ambientdesign.com/artrage.html Oriens http://www.oriens-solution.com/enhancer/ PP Modeler http://www.ppmodeler.com/ Wings http://www.wings3d.com/ Sourceforge has many many free programs http://sourceforge.net/

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svdl ( ) posted Mon, 19 September 2005 at 3:03 PM

If it's digital painting you want, I'd suggest the Gimp - it's free. If it's 3D modeling you want, there are several free modeling programs around. If it's compositing existing (human) 3D models into a scene and rendering those to still images, start with DAZ|Studio - free. If it's 3D outdoor scenery, mountains and forests, optionally with people included, try Terragen and the Vue 5 demos. In short, figure out what it is what you want to do using free programs and demos, and then decide what you want to spend your money on!

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Jumpstartme2 ( ) posted Mon, 19 September 2005 at 3:56 PM

Terragen has a totally free version out, fully functional..and not a demo. Its only for non-commercial output tho...if you wish to sell anything you make with it, you must buy the program. {last I heard it was only $79.00 usd} Excellent program ;)

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BDC ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2005 at 12:36 AM

Bone do you by any chance know what os ppmodler will run on? I cant seem to find the sys req's on thier site anywhere.

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bonestructure ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2005 at 1:10 AM

I know it works on windows and linux. I dunno about Mac

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andytw ( ) posted Wed, 21 September 2005 at 3:05 PM

Attached Link: http://www.planetside.co.uk/terragen/tgd/tgd.shtml

"last I heard it was only $79.00 usd" Cost is now $99.00 usd, however you will get a discount off the price of Terragen 2 (TGD see link) when it is released in 2006 if you register.


FoxSpirit ( ) posted Sun, 25 September 2005 at 7:24 PM

Well, after a lot of trail and error I think I found my foundation. I seem to get along better with Anim8tor than the others I've tried. But I'm still open to suggestions.


bonestructure ( ) posted Sun, 25 September 2005 at 7:34 PM

try combining anim8tor with wings 3D for subdivision modeling and GIMP for textures and post, you'll almost have a full package

Talent is God's gift to you. Using it is your gift to God.


FoxSpirit ( ) posted Mon, 26 September 2005 at 12:26 AM

bonestructure said "try combining anim8tor with wings 3D for subdivision modeling and GIMP for textures and post..." How do I do that?


bonestructure ( ) posted Mon, 26 September 2005 at 12:35 AM

Well, I don't mean you actually combine all 3 programs. just that you get and use all 3.

Talent is God's gift to you. Using it is your gift to God.


FoxSpirit ( ) posted Mon, 26 September 2005 at 1:47 AM

Alright, I'll try 'em and get back tomorrow.


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