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YAY!!!!!!!!!! GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :DDDDDDDDD dancing on the ceiling

It is good that it doesn`t have the jurassic park head.

It's actually not too bad - The para has some bad problems and IMO the triceratops was worse, but while this guy doesn't thrill me it's not a bad attempt at all, from a first look. Based on Poser animals rather than on biology :D Well worth the asking price :D

Cheers,

Cliff

Message edited on: 09/28/2005 04:00

Neat. I was expecting the Stegosaurus this week (which made the "mean, hungry" subject line a bit puzzling ;-) but this is a very cool-looking critter.

I said "Content-Jurassic-Paradise" ;)

xantor said: It is good that it doesn`t have the jurassic park head I like the JP head, it gives the Rex a very Menacing Attitude. And what's with the green scales? I'm going to have to do some serious re-texturing!

A stegosaurus could be mean and hungry looking for vegetation to eat. ;)

The jurassic park style head has been used a lot recently but I prefer the older more reptilian style head that T rex had in older films etc. No one knows the colour of dinosaur skin so green could be the correct colour.

Message edited on: 09/28/2005 06:29

I'm more worried by the green teeth. I'd prefer the head shape to be somewhere in-between the current CP on e(circa 1925) and the JP one (circa 1992), with perhaps a dash of alligator thrown in :D Oh - and eyelids that close from the bottom up. And teeth that aren't green. And a belly that includes all its bones (this one is is thin that some of it's bones would be hanging out). Arms that hang off where they should, and so on and so forth. I'd like it's jaws to open and close about the hinge point instead of just sliding open like an elevator too :D But that doesn't stop this from being one of the better Poser Tyrannosaurs to date ;) esp. at the price. Cheers, Cliff

I still want a feathered T-rex!

Maybe CP is in the "T-rex was a scavenger" camp. Hey, if all you ate was rotten meat, your teeth would be green, too! ;-)

Umm...I have my doubts. Have you tried taking this guy into the hair room and giving him "primitive feathers"?? Cliff

the leg joints on rex are a bit dire though - the pose at the top shows rex with at least one dislocated leg 3d cat has another rex for about 6 $ with much better joints

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3d cat? Oh there's probably 20 errors or so in the CP one offhand. It's still miles betetr IMO than their triceratops (did you try posing the neck of the para - yikes!). There's some superb UV mapping on them though, and the meshes aren't so bad - I'm seriously considering using them as a head-start on making a bunch of better dinos for personal use (distribution would not be happening). Cheers, Cliff

I go for the camp that thinks T. Rex was both a scavanger and predator - opportunistic is the word used. Those arms don't bode well for predatory behaviour, especially for a big, fast herbivore with defenses and the rounded teeth are strange (though, no one mentioned in the show I saw recently that most carnivorous mammals have rounded/unserated teeth - hmmm). One the other hand, it had a mouth full of teeth in a form reminiscent of a shark (nice round caripace of chomping fun). I don't like the 'reptilian' version of dinosaurs. They weren't really reptiles - just as we (mammals) aren't really reptiles - yet we both have similar reptilian ancestors (Dimetrodon is on a direct evolutionary line in our ancestry). If you look at T. Rex's skull, it has the usual carnivorous features that you would see in, say, a dog. A long, laterally thin snout with a highly refined olfactory system, nearly stereoscopic vision, muscles in the mouth/jaw for ripping, tearing, clamping, maybe even snarling. When I see that skull, I see a very large, hairless wolf. :)

"Those arms don't bode well for predatory behaviour" Tell that to an eagle ;) Cliff PS there are very few "purely predatory" animals. Lions scavenge off of hyenas, for example.

For a land predator. Birds and fish, obviously, don't have arms! ;) PS: Exactly. I don't know what the debate is about with these guys (Horner et al). It's pretty certain that a T. Rex could easily catch a wounded or sickly meal and may have even hunted in packs like other predators.

No one knows the colour of dinosaur skin so green could be the correct colour.

Whaddya mean by that?

On my last trip to Antarctica, I visited a valley with a river -- there were many tropical plants growing there. Some of them man-eating.

Actually, the T-Rex's which lived there weren't green. They were vertically black-and-white striped like a zebra. And they had a long tongue like a frog -- they used it to catch pterodactyles out of the air like flies. The long teeth were used for grasping the pterodactyl, and keeping him from getting away.

HOWEVER: the teeth were green - most definitely green.

BTW - when I suggested to a T-Rex that we might be related by a common ancestor, he wasn't impressed. In fact, the suggestion seemed to amuse him.

He's Like Godzilla meets Barny! I think that his texture should be dark Glossy Black. and i wish that the Poser Animals had a bone for their mouth, rather than a stupid, unrealistic morph. And all of their Dino Poses are so Dumb, i re did the Walk/Run Cycles for The Para, and just finished Rex. i also modefied the Brach's Walk, but i'm not too good at animation four leggers! Brachio was the best Dinosaur from CP!

OTOH he/she is free! C'mon - be a little more gentle peeps... Cheers, Diolma

"For a land predator. Birds and fish, obviously, don't have arms! ;)" Not all predatory birds have flown - the Terror Birds were a fine example of 2-legged, land predation without using arms. Also, there's a lot of predatory snakes :lol I doubt very much that T-Rex would pass up an easy meal - but I have real trouble understanding the "he couldn't use his arms for much so he must have scavenged" argument. Let's ignore the idea that T-rex could lift maybe 400 pounds with those arms (small compared to the rest of the body, but still strong enough to impress Schwarzenegger). Just cut the arms right out of the equation and you're left with direct equivalents in ground birds. You'd have to hack the legs off as well before he's as disabled as a snake - and even snakes can somehow manage to catch and kill their own dinners. Crocodiles, alligators, iguanas, chameleons, frogs... there's a lot of critters that don't rely on their forelimbs to catch live prey, and they do rather well. Cheers, Cliff

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Poser 5? 6? Or both?

6, but he should work fairly well in DS even :) Cliff

well negative reviews aside, I love him for those that may remember back to the mists of 1977/78/79 and the comic 2000ad... Ol' One Eye? Satanus? this ones perfect for them :) (Flesh Book 1, Judge Dredd : Cursed Earth, A.B.C. Warriors, Nemesis the Warlock)

" For a land predator. Birds and fish, obviously, don't have arms!" Fish don't have legs, either. Or do they?.... There's a vast amount of scientific opinion that thinks that land animals evolved from aquatic ones. Look at lung fish. They managed to evolve their fins into limbs, so they could climb about as their habitat dried out. Many scientists think that that's how the 4-limbed species originated. And as for birds, yes they do have four limbs. Their arms evolved into wings. Some, (if not all) birds still have vestigal fingers in their wings, which helps them spread/close their feathers for different types of flight. And let's not forget the tail. Fishes had tails. On land these proved useful for most species, although the way they were used changed and so the shape changed. In Mankind (and chimpanzees), the tails weren't used much and diminished til they were virtually non-existant. But they're still there (as the coccyx - the bit of the end of the spine that doesn't actualy do much). Cheers, Diolma

Fish don't have legs, either.

Perhaps not. But they do have bicycles.

Their arms evolved into wings.

Yes. And we know this because.....we know it.

;)

Most of the evolution theory is circumstantial evidence, which is why it is still called theory and not fact. In propack bending the t-rex neck badly distorts the head, why did they change the way joints work in poser 6? It obviously wasn`t to make improvements.

Khai flesh would be a good story to make into a 3d animation. A good film of judge dredd would be good also. ;)

IMHO it gets a bit silly the way people leap on the word "theory" and try to dismiss so much that they don't understand with so little (that they also don't understand). I think for once I'll try not to get drawn in any further, but instead wish you luck in disproving "the theory of gravity" :D Cheers, Cliff

Gravity has been observed millions of times. When did you see someone evlove from a monkey? i think that ScottA's Rex looks better, and is easier to texture.

Well it depends on where you live.... in out language and a many others, the "theory of gravity" isn't called that at all but roughly translated it would be the "teaching of gravity", while evolution theory isn't translated as teaching, but still as a possible theory. Besides, the theory of gravity is backup by every scientist and it's impossible to disprove, evolution theory isn't supported by every sceintist (in recent years many scientist have abandoned it) and one could disprove it. In fact, if you have followed the last 2 decades regarding the evolution theory, you will see how much of the evidence brought forth has been denounced. But..... this is a completely different subject. Back on subject.... I love the CP dinos!

I didnt say I dont understand evolution, I just dont accept something that hasnt been proven as fact, as mushroom man said, gravity can be proven to exist it is not just a theory.

how about giant squids?

No, I know you didn't. I said it for you. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Giant squids? Hmmm... could make for a hearty meal the whole way around? Cheers, Cliff

http://www.3dcat.net/ japanese site gives away free lightwave format models on a regular basis plus does very cheap 5-10$ models of cars animals food plus a t rex only problem in recent times is getting hold of the password used for the zip filed freebies : ( I think I ve tried the email window to get a password about 5 times with no joy yet. Still come the glorious day there'll be some very good models to add

"http://www.3dcat.net/"

You kow for $6 I might just ignore the inaccuracies int hat because it just LOOKS neat. And the inaccuracies that I can tell from those renders are pretty few and small (like the nosrils are too high up - a piddling detail).

I'm tempted - yes, at $6 I'm sorely tempted :) MANY thanks, crowbar, for that link. A pity the head isn't a freebie download any more - but these things must be borne!

Cheers,

Cliff

Message edited on: 09/29/2005 10:52

Amazing how many ungrateful sorts there are among you! Have you no shame, this is free?!! Someone did a lot of work to give you all something wonderful for FREE!!! I almost wish this Rex had the ability to bite all those of you that seem to have lost your ability to appreciate something for nothing!

With all due respect, and ignoring for the moment the good points of the CP dinos, it would be wrong to silence those whith valid negative criticism of thing sjust because they are "free". eFrontier have themselves expressed interest in critique of the models. Something for nothing is not as good as somehting better for nothing. Personally I'd rather have something even better for money than something too poor to use for "free". Don;t be critical yourself if you do not like the attitude - throw in some positive feedback on how good the dinos are, or how well they suit a specific image/animation you've done. Cheers, Cliff

If I made a free item and someone complained about it I wouldn`t mind if it was a reasonable complaint : It would help me to see what was wrong with the item and how to improve it or make a better newer version.