Hey all, I posted this in the Bryce section and will be posting a similar message in the Vue section. Presently I am looking at adding one of these two programs to my software list. What I want to know from users of Bryce and Vue is what they love about the program, what they don't like, its compatability with Poser and how you work with it with poser. How easy it is to use and learn, Tell me all about Bryce! If you use both, tell me the differences in the applications, which does what better and so forth. Thank you for helping make this important decision. :)

First off, this is a topic that comes up often. You might want to do a search with the very same heading you used. All I'll say is this, I chose Bryce because Vue kept crashing every 10 minutes. It had huge stability problems. Now, I don't know if its any more stable now than it was a couple of years ago, but its too late for me now.

Thanks.

2nd, Bryce is way cheaper than many of the Vue versions (there's a comparable price point offering, but I haven't heard much favorable from the Vue Folks..;)
Both Bryce and Vue can import Poser Figures, and textures, in different ways . Vue can import Poser scenes, tho.
I only have Vue 3, but it's amazing how much it looks like Bryce..acts like Bryce, etc..
Vue and Bryce have a lot of materials that can be applied to primitives or models in them, tho Bryce seems to have a lot more of them (I have over a thousand..and use the same 30 over and over..;)
Vue's a good program, and I'm impressed with it, but Bryce I've had for a few (already?) years, and I'm just comfortable with it.
Bryce also has Daz Studio (take that!..;) that can be used to bring Poser figures in with..especially if they're from Daz..;) And Daz Studio is free (for now)
no reason (except empty pockets) you can't have both..;)

hehe yeah a frugal hubby that says he does not want empty pockets, so he wants me to choose. Waaahhh... Ah well. In the Vue forum it was suggested I DL a trial version of each and see which I like better. I think I'll do that. Thanks!

Heresy! There is only one TRUE 3D App......

And TheBryster uses them all...

From what I've heard on the street, Vue > Bryce. From what I've heard in the Bryce forum, Bryce > all.

right bryster , and that is the free 3d Blender. :P

Bryce, follow, or get out of the way. ;o) AS

LOL

Seriously though, sigh...(here we go again) There is a Vue, that is in the price range of Bryce now (Vue 5 Easel - $80). Yet, it is a "Light Edition" compared to the rest of the Vue line which is between $250 - $600. The users in the Vue forum can tell you the specifics on how it is limited (compared to the other versions). But, still (I'm sure its a nice program). There isn't an Easel trail available yet, yet perhaps you can download Vue 5 Esprit, and get a feel for it, although you will want to take into account Easel is more limited and Vue 5 Esprit costs $180 more. Yet...I gotta say, I still love my Bryce, IMNSHO! (in my not so humble opinion) AS

calls up lawyer to sue Bandolin for Heresy AND Libal!

One more crack like that an I'll do you for heresy!
-Monty Python..;)

Well Bryce is more of a do it yoruself program. Vue is more of a do it yourself while your mother holds your hand program. Bryce has mor etexturing options and many are nto realistic. Soemtimes you don't want realism you want toatal nuttiness. Vue has realism but does nto let you get downright crazy and make moutains out of pudding and things like that. Vue has more lighting models available for it so that is nice. Bryce has better volume textures and deeper deep texture editor. Generally Bryce is more of a do it yourself community and a lto of Brycers are modelers as well. Few Vue users are.

Bryce is much easier to learn than Vue, you don't need a masters degree to use bryce yet when i tried to learn/use vue i felt that i had to go back to school and learn something i had no clue on.

Oddly enough right now Newtek is offering Vue Infinate bundled when Lightwave for 400 for a upgrade license and slightly more for a full license. Pretty good deal.

pretty good deal if you can afford that. At todays(10/27/05) echange rate that would be $528.56AUD. How many people do you think can afford to pay that for some software, i can't i know that much. Thank god for bryce.

CD - I think you're forgetting GST and reseller add-ons.. that takes it up to about $650AUD (The full commercial use LW and Vue bundle here is about $1200AUD)

The new Carrara5 has posing of poser characters inside the app(i think it has dynamic poser cloth support too),terrain editors,sky editor,tree generation,a fur plugin(for 39$),GI,AO, and a modeler all in one package.....500$ for the pro version.For a cheap app,the new Carrara is better than both IMO. Otherwise the Lightwave/Vue bundle is the best choice for a few hundred more.

Flak you are correct, i had forgot about GST and reseller add-ons. I don't think i'll be rushing out to buy it just yet, might wait till i win lotto ;)

What I don't like in Vue is the mesh representation; in Bryce you ALWAYs get a beautiful ANTIALIASED view of the wireframes/meshes in your pic; in Vue you get a few random lines!!!! as a repr. of a mesh; you must go into shaded/slow mode to come close the clear view...an incredible misstake by e-on not to update this problem.

Twisted, Carrara5 (Pro Version only) does support Poser characters, but NOT dynamic cloth support. Something they REALLY need to work on... Ken (Bryce lurker, but Carrara modeller... heh)

attileus - they may have fixed that to some extent in v5i - to get the more solid line groupings for the wireframe meshes (an issue I ran into in my playing with the V5i demo), you have to go into the options - display prefs and play with some "background draw" sliders and things. Even then, the gui seems a bit more sluggish than bryce for the same wireframe representation of an object (though I haven't timed it, so it might just be perception). No idea how this relates to the other Vue versions though.

My bad....I could care less about poser integration though.Whatever.

I have both. Bryce has a faster working interface (Make a change see the change)Vue 5 infinate has more features but the working interface is sluggish(Make a change see the change after waiting for a few seconds)Very annoying. Go with Bryce 5.5, Faster cheaper easier to learn and just plain more fun:)Also bryce has more users more help more free stuff, more tutorials.

the colors are more vibrant too, vue seems to be greyish, just like mark x.

I'm a bryce slave, but what I like in vue is the render engine with Global Illumination, Radiosity and HDRI. You can set the effect you want in few clicks: in bryce you may get crazy attempting to fake these features. Choose what your goal is.

I'm mostly a Cinema user at the moment but even with full GI support (Adv Renderer2 and FinalRender2), we still use faking it frequently as it does have a rendertime cost no matter how good the code. Working in Bryce and having to fake it made me look heavily into lighting and that is paying off bigtime regardless of use of GI or not.