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Subject: OT: Sony demands access to your emails, phone calls...


mrsparky ( ) posted Sat, 26 November 2005 at 7:09 AM · edited Mon, 20 January 2025 at 12:57 PM

"In an open letter to MEPs, companies including Sony BMG, Disney and EMI have asked to be given access to communications data - records of phone calls, emails and internet surfing"..... More at... http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/netmusic/story/0,,1651273,00.html

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nruddock ( ) posted Sat, 26 November 2005 at 8:47 AM

Let's hope this makes the European Parliament think again about the whole idea.


Byrdie ( ) posted Sat, 26 November 2005 at 12:20 PM

What, so everybody's a criminal now? Sheesh, fine way to treat your customers, Sony!


kuroyume0161 ( ) posted Sat, 26 November 2005 at 12:59 PM

I have only two Sony items (CRT monitor and DVD-RW drive). Maybe it's time to sell them and get equipment made by someone who doesn't treat the rest of us like criminals. Already have a (non-Sony) DVD Dual Layer drive that could replace the one...

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Jackson ( ) posted Sat, 26 November 2005 at 1:46 PM

"But Major Hochschtetter, my men have done nothing wrong..." "Ve vill see, Klink. Ve vill see."


kuroyume0161 ( ) posted Sat, 26 November 2005 at 2:00 PM

After fully reading the linked article (thank you, mrsparky), why does this sound like another bad idea with Sony at the helm? Let's see: compulsorily force European telecommunication companies to retain more and more private records (= more cost to provide infrastructure), allow these media companies access to that private data (probably without probable cause), allow use of all of it in other cases (again without writ more than likely), and, the good part, sit around waiting for some unscrupulous shady type to abscond with twenty million private records on tape, disk, laptop, whatnot. Not that this isn't an issue already, but one knows what they say about more data. Noone expects the Information Inquisition!

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Acadia ( ) posted Sat, 26 November 2005 at 2:48 PM

George Orwell's novel 1984 is about 21 years too late, but seems that his vision wasn't too far off the mark.

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aeilkema ( ) posted Sat, 26 November 2005 at 3:07 PM

"The music and film industries are demanding that the European parliament extends the scope of proposed anti-terror laws to help them prosecute illegal downloaders." I can understand why they are doing all of this, since in many European countries (including mine), downloading music and movies isn't illegal at all. Software is protected, but we are allowed to download music and movies for our own use. I do not agree with Sony and such at all, but I do understand where there coming from. What these companies don't understand it that there only getting the public against them by these kind of actions. I'm not going to buy anything from Sony anymore, I'm boycotting them. I'm not the only one many do so and hopefully these greedy companies will change their minds about interferring with my private rights.

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Byrdie ( ) posted Sat, 26 November 2005 at 3:34 PM · edited Sat, 26 November 2005 at 3:34 PM

In Canada, we pay a special tarif on recordable media. Because of this, downloading of music & films (but not software, afaik) for personal use is legal here too. They wanna ban that, well fine with me -- just so long as they refund the "royalty tax". Can't have it both ways, eh?

Message edited on: 11/26/2005 15:34


svdl ( ) posted Sat, 26 November 2005 at 3:35 PM

It's time Sony and other corporations start rethinking their business models. A music CD in the Netherlands costs about 16 to 20. The production costs of a CD are in the order of a few cents. The artist receives 2 per CD sold, if he/she has a really good deal with the music label. Most artists get much less. And they also have to hire the studios from the music label corportations. There's shipping and handling, and there's taxes. But in the end, the music label gets quite a lot of money per CD sold. It is not surprising that more and more music artists do not deal with music labels anymore. They offer their music on the Internet, downloadable, at a price less than half of a regular CD, and they make more money. Apple has got it right. iTunes is a very succesful business model. IBM has got it right. They have switched to a service-oriented business model. Instead of selling a product once, they earn their money by delivering services to the customer on a recurring basis. Instead of trying more and more draconic and even criminal means to protect their outdated business models, the music and film (and software!) industries should adapt their way of making money to the age of the Internet. There's nothing wrong with making money by selling music or video. There's also nothing wrong with protecting your investments. But there's something seriously wrong with treating all (potential) customers as criminals. If I go to the drugstore to buy bread and milk, I don't expect the shopkeeper to point a gun at me. Even if drugstores have been robbed by armed criminals, I still expect to be treated as a customer. If Sony c.s. do not adapt to the Internet and do it soon, they'll put themselves out of business.

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lmckenzie ( ) posted Sat, 26 November 2005 at 3:42 PM · edited Sat, 26 November 2005 at 3:46 PM

Ouch! Sadly, once you have these ill considered anti-terrorism laws, their use expands to cover much more than terrorism. Why should the police or Sony have to actually work at making legitimate cases when they can just spy on everyone for anything all the time? Of course, this whole thing is so outrageous and their reputation is already so damaged that perhaps it's only a ploy to get something else from government.

Message edited on: 11/26/2005 15:46

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Acadia ( ) posted Sat, 26 November 2005 at 5:30 PM

Attached Link: http://news.com.com/2100-1027_3-5182641.html

> Quote - In Canada, we pay a special tarif on recordable media. Because of this, downloading of music & films (but not software, afaik) for personal use is legal here too.

Actually, you have part of that right. In Canada we do pay a tarif tax on blank recordable media such as Cassette Tapes, DVD's, CD's, VHS Tapes. But we also pay the tarif on things that are used to play and/or record, such as CD Burners, DVD Burners, MP3 Players, VHS machines, etc. This tarif is paid regardless of what you plan on using the media for. So if you use DVD/CD to back up your computer files for safe keeping, you are still subject to having to pay the built in tarif. Plus there is talk of that tarif being increased. Also, while sharing of MP3's is 100% legal in Canada, sharing of movies/video isn't. The ruling extended only to MP3 files, nothing else. http://www.canadiancontent.net/commtr/article_674.html http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/03/31/canada/download_court040331 http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/legal/0,39020651,39150637,00.htm The collection of this tarif is mandatory, and it's accountable by law, and is distributed back to the recording industry. How that works, I do not know.

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Byrdie ( ) posted Sat, 26 November 2005 at 6:14 PM · edited Sat, 26 November 2005 at 6:16 PM

Music only, eh? Well the only movie I ever downloaded off Bit Torrent was 100% perfectly legal: Star Wars Revelations. Still haven't seen anything else worth wasting bandwidth & drive space on that I don't already own fully legit copies of. Anyway, I'll keep that fact in mind. Thanx for the correction, these things change so often it's hard to keep track of what's what.

Message edited on: 11/26/2005 18:16


1358 ( ) posted Sat, 26 November 2005 at 7:34 PM

in regards to the Canada Recordable Materials Levy, a couple things must be clarified. It is not legal to copy works for any use but your own, ie. making a back up. The Recordable Materials Levy was enacted on the assumption that any person using these materials was going to do an illegal recording any way so even if you use the materials in your own work, you still have to pay the tax. second, thus far the money collected over the years of this Levy, not a penny has gone to either the record companies or the musicians. The money has gone to pay for it's own bureaucracy and for lobby purposes. Artists are now trying to become hopeful eventual recipients of the money reaped in this Levy.


Byrdie ( ) posted Sat, 26 November 2005 at 7:46 PM

Huh?! What lobby? Just what am I paying for any way? Other than to compensate the artists for royalties "lost" by transferring music to CDs from casettes instead of buying the same album twice and other legal uses, I mean. I can understand such a system has maintenance costs and what-have-you, but surely the government/bureacracy hasn't kept all of it? Sheesh, and here I thought I was doing something right, the artists were getting paid fairly whenever I bought blank discs & tapes.


hein ( ) posted Sun, 27 November 2005 at 3:38 AM

We have the same "pre-emptive" fine on recordables, it helps all recording artists & companies to get money from people who don't want their products for whatever reason, it's assumed they are entitled to a share of your money even if you don't want to make use of their services.

It's a bit like paying taxes, even if you never leave your home, you still pay for the traffic cops.


mrsparky ( ) posted Sun, 27 November 2005 at 5:47 AM

In the UK we have a similar levvy, on on blank audio tapes and recordable audio CD's. But not on standard CDR's. Retailers, espcially in the local panasonic shop, perpeputate the myth that you can't use standard CDR's for music and the levvy supports artists. A box of 10 of audio CDR's is around 12-15 UKP, 10 branded with jewel cases 7-10 UKP and tescos sell a drum of 25 quality blanks for 2.75 and it's buy one get one free, where do you buy?

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.



hein ( ) posted Sun, 27 November 2005 at 6:56 AM

I only use CDR's for quick data transfers and to burn Audio books (8-50 CDR's per book), in neither case quality is an issue, so I pop over to Germany (30 min drive) every few months and buy a few 100 or 200 pc drums for about 10-15.


elizabyte ( ) posted Sun, 27 November 2005 at 7:06 AM

I'd already decided I wasn't going to buy anything else from Sony ever (I haven't bought any new CDs from them in ages, although I have bought CDs lately). This just triply confirms that decision, and I don't even live in Europe. It's rare for me to boycott any company, but in this case, I think it's entirely warrented. bonni

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Khai ( ) posted Sun, 27 November 2005 at 7:16 AM

question is.. which bit of Sony are you all boycotting? since Sony Computers, TV's etc have very little todo with Sony Music... example : in the UK, Sony BMG is trying to stamp out music sharing. while, Sony Computers is advertising their laptops as the perfect way to rip CD's and share them. now.. technically they are owned by the same company.. (Sony)..... but in reality they are just a lot of seperate companies who do what they want, that pay profits to a mother company. the mother company does actually very little....


elizabyte ( ) posted Sun, 27 November 2005 at 8:50 AM

Well, I'm certainly NOT buying ANY CDs from Sony/BMG or their related companies! LOL! ;-) Generally speaking, I can avoid Sony completely (although I'll have to have a quick look to see what all their sub-companies are to avoid them, as well). Don't need their phones, their televisions, their computer components. I don't want a Playstation at all. For most things, I can just buy a different brand. For other stuff (like music) I can just plain do without it. It won't be painful for me, but if enough people do it, it'll be painful for Sony. I don't really care about causing them pain, mind you. I just would rather not do business with a company that will put malicious rootkits on their CDs and now is demanding the right to invade people's privacy to protect their own bottom line. bonni

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Khai ( ) posted Sun, 27 November 2005 at 9:50 AM

and the chips, circuit boards, rebadged items sold to other firms, and.... ;)


mrsparky ( ) posted Sun, 27 November 2005 at 12:04 PM

Khais right - Buy any bit of consumer electronics, regardless of brand take the lid off and you'll see chips from mitusbhui, philips, sony etc etc. Boycooting is'nt the answer, look at barclays bank supporting aparthied in the 80's, they didn't go bust. They just re-brand as ethical. If you really wanted to annoy them, give their music away for free. OK, its illegal, but is music priracy any more immoral than their behaviour ?

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.



lmckenzie ( ) posted Sun, 27 November 2005 at 3:06 PM

Bad publicity hurts them more than anything. WalMart's starting to sweat their reputation since people started talking about their practices. Sony began to back down when confronted with the groundswell of negative publicity. Years ago, it was hard to mobilize public opinion in the face of slick corporate PR machines. Today with the internet, a movement can spring up overnight. You don't necessarily need a real boycott, just the idea that so many people are even talking about one is enough to keep them up at night. First these guys raise the price of CDs to ridiculous levels, now they're sueing their customers. The artists never did like them, now the public hates them and their only friends are lobbyists and corrupt pols.. Hopefully, people will start voting the pols out and they'll be on their own and maybe out of business. It may well be that artists using the 'net to promote and sell their own work is the wave of the future.

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kuroyume0161 ( ) posted Sun, 27 November 2005 at 4:21 PM

mrsparky, I don't buy that line of reasoning. You might not be able to avoid Sony components, but this is the piecemeal stuff. Avoid their monitors, computers, computer equipment, televisions, AV equipment, game consoles, CDs, and all the real money-makers and they will feel it! I don't think that doing the actual practice which has caused their paranoid practices is a good reproach. It will only incur more Draconianism on their part. During the Boston Tea Party, the colonists didn't steal the tea and drink it. They dumped the goods into the harbor to protest the Tea Tax - better no tea at all than to succumb to the taxation.

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elizabyte ( ) posted Sun, 27 November 2005 at 4:51 PM

So, because I can't possibly avoid ALL Sony components, I should buy their music CDs, which I CAN see and know for sure they've mucked with in the past and may do again in the future? Sorry. Makes zero sense to me. ;-) bonni

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jjsemp ( ) posted Sun, 27 November 2005 at 6:35 PM · edited Sun, 27 November 2005 at 6:35 PM

If you really wanted to annoy them, give their music away for free. OK, its illegal, but is music priracy any more immoral than their behaviour ?<<

When I see something like this posted here, I can't believe I'm in the same forum that regularly FREAKS OUT if somebody steals a bit of an image or a bit of 3D mesh every once in a while.

This isn't a criticism. It's just an ironic observation.

As for my opinion? Personally, I've thought for some time now that piracy is inevitable (human nature being what it is) and I don't understand why more businesses don't work piracy into their business model and use it to their advantage instead of going insane when it happens and suing everybody in sight.

Message edited on: 11/27/2005 18:35


LostinSpaceman ( ) posted Sun, 27 November 2005 at 6:52 PM

I'm wondering if SOny VAIO computers come with the rootkit's already installed. Saw a booth for them in the mall this weekend and wanted to wave a boycott flag right then and there.


lmckenzie ( ) posted Sun, 27 November 2005 at 9:03 PM

"Personally, I've thought for some time now that piracy is inevitable (human nature being what it is) and I don't understand why more businesses don't work piracy into their business model and use it to their advantage instead of going insane when it happens and suing everybody in sight." I agree with that view though I'm not sure what the answer is. Maybe we should just have a tax on the entire internet on the assumption that the majority of users are going to be stealing, sinning or doing something "anti-social" at some point. The only problem is figuring out how to distribute the proceeds.

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XENOPHONZ ( ) posted Sun, 27 November 2005 at 9:57 PM · edited Sun, 27 November 2005 at 9:58 PM

While it's true that a lot of pirating of CD's/DVD's/etc. occurs in Western countries --

---- it's also true that vast majority of outright ripping of movies/music/whatever occurs in Southeast Asia. There's a thriving business going on -- churning out not just mere downloads and bootleg copies -- but excellent product counterfeits complete with original cover art, serial #'s, etc. all included.

Perhaps Sony should consider looking in their own backyard. But then again.....chances are that Sony would be wasting their time & effort going after countries like China. They wouldn't find much joy in return for their trouble.

The recording industry blames sharply declining sales of CD's on the activities of illegal downloaders.

The industry doesn't want to cop to the possibility that producing garbage, in its turn, produces low sales figures.

Message edited on: 11/27/2005 21:58

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mrsparky ( ) posted Mon, 28 November 2005 at 1:21 PM

"This isn't a criticism. It's just an ironic observation." And it's a good one. I must admit to thinking I'm probably gonna flamed for posting it! Then again my logic isn't to encourage priacy but if you hurt 'em in the wallet and they might (hopefully) change the way many corporations treat customers like sh*t. Sony isn't the only guilty party on this, how many folks here have wanted to kill someone or lost their temper after buying something or getting a service to find it doesn't work. Then have to spend a small fortune and hours on national rate lines being fobbed off.

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.



lmckenzie ( ) posted Mon, 28 November 2005 at 4:02 PM

"...spend a small fortune and hours on national rate lines being fobbed off." Oooh, sounds a lot like 1-900-phone-sex :-) Throw in the fact that you're being fobbed off to Bangladesh because they can no longer afford to hire the first world residents they expect to buy their products and yeah, you do get a tad miffed. People enable them though. If a million parents laid down the law and said screw PlayStation, we're going to play monopoly, have a family sing along instead of listening to the latest trashy teen diva dreck, make gifts instead of buying them etc... Never happen you say? Oh it will happen soon enough when gas is 10x the price it is now, all the decent jobs are gone and we discover that new nano-whatever jobs can be shipped offshore as easily as the old ones. Of course by then, Sony et al will have officially taken over world government instead of using their current political puppets. I say, get naked, get a sword, find a temple and get ready to rumble!

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shedofjoy ( ) posted Tue, 29 November 2005 at 10:52 AM

Apples Itunes are no better, if it was wouldnt music,no matter where it is bought be the same price? as France and most of europe pay less than the UK for the same tracks, and we are supposed to be part of the EU??? my arse... As for Sony, They do NOT care what we think, i e-mailed them about the rootkit on music cd's (As i own a Natasha Bedingfield cd which contains the rootkit) and ask them if they will be doing a replacement program like in the USA. my reply basically said NO, because no one in the rest of the world is thinking of sueing us... Perhaps we should all just wage war on them... grrrrrrr...

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JHoagland ( ) posted Thu, 01 December 2005 at 1:49 PM

Just a side-thought: for a company that seems so against copying and piracy, they certainly make a lot of recordable media. A simple search on www.bestbuy.com shows TONS of CD-R's, DVD-R's, video tapes, etc. which are made by Sony... not to mention the DVD and CD writers! --John


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Khai ( ) posted Thu, 01 December 2005 at 2:08 PM

yup (the following is not aimed at anyone person but at the pack mentality) thats cos (repeats it once again) Sony is a lot of seperate companies that do their own thing and report back to 1 top company (Sony) you've got : Sony Sony BMG Sony Pictures Sony Online Sony Electronics.. etc. each does what they want. thats why the idea of boycotting 'sony' is so laughable. going to throw out your playstation 2 because Sony BMG root kitted you? why? Sony Electonics had nothing to do with it. Going to avoid seeing The Da Vinci Code, The Fog, Freedomland,Fun With Dick and Jane, The Gospel, The Legend of Zorro, Memoirs of a Geisha, Mirrormask, Monster House, Oliver Twist, Open Season, Rent, Underworld: Evolution, Zathura? they are all Sony Pictures. again, nothing to do with what Sony BMG did.. boycott the right company! boycott Sony BMG - not Sony.


kuroyume0161 ( ) posted Thu, 01 December 2005 at 3:31 PM

While I see your point (which is obvious for any large conglomerate corporation), how am I to boycott Sony BMG? I don't purchase anything to do with them already as stated. As for the movies, the only one that I might remotely miss is 'Memoirs of a Geisha'. The same critique goes for movies of late as for music. If they want customers to pay the extravagant prices for Audio CDs and movie theater viewings, then they'd better start pushing quality over quantity. I think that I saw maybe three movies this year: LOTR:ROTK, HP&TGOF, and SW:ROTS. And the latter just to finalize the sextet. Anything else, and I'll wait for either PPV or HBO. ;)

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Khai ( ) posted Thu, 01 December 2005 at 3:55 PM

"how am I to boycott Sony BMG? I don't purchase anything to do with them already as stated." then why do anymore? your're already not affected by their actions, nor paying into their coffers. any further actions will not affect those you want to deny your money to.. only those that had nothing to do with what you are protesting about. not logical.


lmckenzie ( ) posted Thu, 01 December 2005 at 8:16 PM

What you're saying is that Sony BMG and the others are basically just franchises who pay to use the Sony name and that Sony corporate has no control over them--they can tell "Mr. Sony" to go take a hike and there's nothing he can do about it. I find it hard to believe that any company would let its subsidiaries get away from them to that degree. If nothing else, Sony, (whichever of these various Sonys) has to contend with the fact that the vast unwashed public does not make these fine distinctions regarding conglomerate organizational charts. This incident has become a blackeye for everything Sony precisely because the public doesn't distinguish and they are just as likely to take out their ire over a rootkitted CD by buying another brand of DVD, television etc. Microsoft may even be the beneficiary of a few more XBox 360s this Christmas. I'm sure Sony's PR machine would love to get your message out to the world, don't blame us, blame Sony BMG. Unfortunately for them, no matter how much truth there may be in that, most people simply aren't going to buy it. Bottom line, if Sony which is not BMG wants to avoid problems like this, maybe they better revoke BMG's franchise and make them stop using the Sony name...unless of course they have no control over that either.

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lmckenzie ( ) posted Thu, 01 December 2005 at 8:18 PM

What you're saying is that Sony BMG and the others are basically just franchises who pay to use the Sony name and that Sony corporate has no control over them--they can tell "Mr. Sony" to go take a hike and there's nothing he can do about it. I find it hard to believe that any company would let its subsidiaries get away from them to that degree. If nothing else, Sony, (whichever of these various Sonys) has to contend with the fact that the vast unwashed public does not make these fine distinctions regarding conglomerate organizational charts. This incident has become a blackeye for everything Sony precisely because the public doesn't distinguish and they are just as likely to take out their ire over a rootkitted CD by buying another brand of DVD, television etc. Microsoft may even be the beneficiary of a few more XBox 360s this Christmas. Even if reality is on their side, perception isn't and dealing with consumers, perception is just about everything. I'm sure Sony's PR machine would love to get your message out to the world, don't blame us, blame Sony BMG. Unfortunately for them, no matter how much truth there may be in that, most people simply aren't going to buy it. Bottom line, if Sony which is not BMG wants to avoid problems like this, maybe they better revoke BMG's franchise and make them stop using the Sony name...unless of course they have no control over that either.

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Khai ( ) posted Thu, 01 December 2005 at 8:50 PM

whatever. I've told the truth.. so now it's your (all) choice.. use your minds.. or get the pitchforks ;) I'll just sit back and watch the mobmind at work now.. keep going please.. it's gonna be a wonderful thesis...


lmckenzie ( ) posted Fri, 02 December 2005 at 12:46 AM

Oh I don't doubt that you may have told the truth. The mobmind you refer to though is pretty much normal human nature here or elsewhere. Call it ignorance, laziness mob mentality or whatever, the public is going to hear "Sony" and act accordingly. You've heard of "branding?" This is the other edge of that sword. Sony has worked hard to equate everything the Sony name is attatched to with quality, reliability, etc. Now, to a degree, the name and anything it is attached to will be equated with something quite different. If Sony thinks otherwise, they are living in a corporate dreamworld.

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kuroyume0161 ( ) posted Fri, 02 December 2005 at 12:59 AM

I'm sorry. I'm not the 'mobmind mentality' here. If Sony can't control their subsidiaries, then why be incorporated? If the Sony Corporation has no say in what the subs do, then why even call them "Sony BMG", "Sony Electronics", and so on. The President of the United States may not be the root cause of a scandal related to his staff, but his position makes him responsible (period). Sony is at the helm - they are responsible. If such 'minor' things like rootkits are of no concern to Sony, then they should change their business model.

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