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Subject: Playing with Fire......


TheBryster ( ) posted Wed, 07 December 2005 at 6:58 PM · edited Tue, 26 November 2024 at 7:28 PM
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I was watching RED PLANET last night (the movie where they try to terra-form Mars and end up bringing home a load of creepy bugs...Val Kilma stars with the hot chick from the Matrix) and I got to thinking how the special effects boys & girls had done a great job with the explosions and fire type stuff. Then I thought about how difficult fire is to create in Bryce...well it is for me.

So just for the hell of it (how appropriate) I grabbed about 60 frames of fire and zipped them up. What you see above is just yours truly messing around with 3 different screen-grabs and trying to apply them in a Bryce kinda way. Now I'm thinking that some of you with time on their hands might like to see what you can do with them......its a 4mb zip if you want them....

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madmax_br5 ( ) posted Wed, 07 December 2005 at 8:20 PM

definitely. lnik?


clay ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2005 at 12:55 AM

Attached Link: http://claygraphics.phase2.net/volumetricfire.html

Here's some bryce made fire for ya with a free download:-)

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Rayraz ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2005 at 2:52 AM

Fire is always hard. your fire doesn't look bad, but it needs some volume transparency to match I think... so... which hot chick from the matrix is in that movie? monica belluci? (trying to find out how worth watching that movie is :P)

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UVDan ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2005 at 3:06 AM
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Clay's volumetric fire has always been my fire mat of choice. It is the mat that I use to develop my aerial explosions and flak mats with. I am really interested to see what you have come up with TheBryster. I find that no matter what fire I make, that it is made significantly better through post work with clone brushes, layers, and pictures of actual fires.

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toolz ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2005 at 4:30 AM

Attached Link: Sci-Fi video with great fire/explosion effect

Can volumetric fire in Bryce be animated? I've been thinking about using Bryce for an animation I am trying to produce, but I need to make animated fire. One of the most realistic explosion/fire effects I've ever seen done has to be the one in the video shown in the thread I've linked to above. He used particles to get the effect in that video, and it's very much what I'm trying to accomplish. However, I don't have access to the software he is using, so I have to find another way. I know Bryce doesn't have particles (yet), but I'm thinking maybe animated metaballs with volumetric fire materials? Any thoughts?


TheBryster ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2005 at 9:09 AM · edited Thu, 08 December 2005 at 9:12 AM
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If you want it I'll e-mail to you. Its a 4mb zip but becasue I'm having trouble with MSFrontpage I can't put it on my website atm.....'of course if someone wants to host it in the mean time............. BTW. the 'hot chick' is Carrie-Anne Moss.

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pakled ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2005 at 10:54 AM

fire could be animated, if you have an object to move around (or a collection of them). Since it's a mat, it would have to be applied to something 'solid' in order to work. Now beyond that, I have no idea..;)

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Slakker ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2005 at 12:57 PM

Clay's fire is really amazing...i made a fire mat for a challenge ages ago...i bet it's on my other machine though.


Rayraz ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2005 at 1:11 PM · edited Thu, 08 December 2005 at 1:16 PM

I've tried metaballs for volume fire, but it's not really all that great. it's hard to get volume materials to behave correctly, and the shape of blended the metaballs doesn't look too much like fire either.

Why do u need frontpage to upload a file? lol. just upload it through ftp...

a hyperlink to it is programmed with:

put the clickable text or image u want to have on screen here

(sorry, not a fan of frontpage hehe, just had to provide the alternative option)

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FranOnTheEdge ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2005 at 2:25 PM

Clay's fire, Clay's fire, rah rah rah! Brilliant stuff. Bryster, the first one looks best to me, but I agree about adding volume.

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TheBryster ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2005 at 2:35 PM
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Rayraz: I have no idea of what you are talking about......

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All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster


And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


UVDan ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2005 at 5:01 PM
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Attached Link: explosion tut

This may give you some ideas to try out.

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TheBryster ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2005 at 7:36 PM
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Attached Link: http://uk.geocities.com/bryster3d/downloads.html

Here's the link ! And if anyone know of a free website that has more than 15mb of free space I'd love to hear about it!

Available on Amazon for the Kindle E-Reader

All the Woes of a World by Jonathan Icknield aka The Bryster


And in my final hours - I would cling rather to the tattooed hand of kindness - than the unblemished hand of hate...


toolz ( ) posted Thu, 08 December 2005 at 8:05 PM

Thanks, UVDan, for that tut! I'm getting Bryce tonight and giving it a go.


shinyary2 ( ) posted Fri, 09 December 2005 at 10:36 PM

Referring to toolz: I don't think it's possible to get an explosion, animated or otherwise, to look that good in Bryce. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that Bryce just isn't cut out for that sort of thing. Metaballs sound like a really good idea to me, and could work if you could find the right volumetric cloud material (Bryce does come with some great ones), but personally I'd be scared off by the render times. Hope you have a renderfarm ;)


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