I'm working on a Joan of Arc image and have been getting frustrated trying to get a character that is passable for a 16 year old French girl,..........this is one I'm satisfied with, does this fit the bill ? Also interested in opinions on the Armour texture,......it's based on a "Hammered Steel" texture and was made in the DTE.

Well, i think you've done a great job on both girl and texture.........would like to see why she looks so shocked? well done

The character is great, the texture looks good except the hammer marks seem a bit large, individual marks should be about 5mm dia.

the texture isn't bad, but the scale is a bit off...just some simple tweaks, no big deal.

Looks believable. However I find the whole Joan of Arc story to be very unbelievable. What nobleman in his right mind is going to turn his armies over to a 16 year old hallucinating farm girl?

depends if the nobleman has been smoking what the girl was growing on her farm...figure looks a wee bit younger than 16 to me, maybe if you could thin the face slightly it might add a couple of years in my opinion.

I think she looks quite believable! Girls of that era did not eat the diet we do today and did not go into adolescence as quickly as girls do now. The story of Joan of Arc is a matter of historical record, not myth. I suspect Charles VII probably had a poor self image as he was mostly ignored by his parents in favor of his three older brothers who each in turn became the Dauphin, or heir apparent. They all died before they could succeed their father. He sought protection at the court of his Mum-in-law Yolande, Queen of Aragon. His infant nephew, King Henry VI of England, was crowned the new French King in accordance with Charles's father's Treaty of Troyes signed in 1420. Charles VII probably figured he had nothing to lose if he wanted to regain the throne which was rightfully his. Sounds like a classic passive-agressive,lol.

"What nobleman in his right mind is going to turn his armies over to a 16 year old hallucinating farm girl?" Any nobleman at that point in history. At that time, the church was (in Europe) the ONLY over-riding authority, except for the "God (appointed) Kings". Church and State were often battling for power. Science hadn't really been invented/discovered. The nobility were not really much more educated than the peasants, the clergy or the alchemists (the closest thing they had to scientists). So yes, a believing noble would turn his armies over to a hallucinating farm girl. Religion was (and alas, still is) a very powerful force that can provide the impetus for violence.... Given the recent events in the Middle-East, New York, London and other areas, need I say more? They believe they are right. I (personal opinion) believe they are wrong. Back then, the difference was harder to decide.. Cheers, Diolma

dio not religion in such is wrong but blinding fanatism is, just as it is promoting capitalism as one and only true system all over the world. about joan of arc she seems hot with the lesbians now adays as cult figure, what amazes me is that you both made her a redhaed? is that because you think witches have always red hair?

Regarding Joan's red hair; I did a google image search for background. In most cases where there was a color image, the hair appeared to be some shade of red.

"dio not religion in such is wrong but blinding fanatism is, just as it is promoting capitalism as one and only true system all over the world." Ysvry: I totally agree. I was just about to go into a long spiel which could have started an argument/flame-war/actual war.... but I stopped:-)) Not quite the relevant forum (nor thread)... @ sackrat: Without seeing the rest of the pic, I cannot fully judge, but IMHO, that's a very good start. It gets away from the usual stylised versions..:-) Cheers, Diolma