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Just uploaded a scene to the gallery. Could I like maybe trouble some for some feedback??? ")

After a sometimes painstaking time figuring things out tweaking clothing, textures, trans maps and poses I have finaly finished my next scene & uploaded it to the gallery.

It took me two weeks of "free" time.
It included lots of reading, lots of figuring things out and a few crashes to my otherwise very stable Mac Powerbook G4.

In one crash I lost the Trans map & my poser file.
Luckily I had a texture that was only a few steps back from what it was at the time.
I recreated the scene and now always keep at least one back up while I work.

Except for some adjustments to the levels in Photoshop I did no other postwork.
I know my way around Photoshop & would like to post work it.
But I'm not sure where to start.
Maybe some of those that have created the incredible work I see in the gallery can give me some direction to this?

Anyway Hope it's a worthy addition to the already breathtaking & seemingly endless amount of scenes in the gallery.
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Did you delete your picture? I tried the link and got an object not found error report.

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I clicked on northeaster's name, then the Gallery link and the latest pic is named "Faery Small World" so im posting the link that clicking on that thumb lead me to. Now im gonna go check out the pic :) Ill letcha know what I think in a few mins! Logan

mkay, I dont think ive really put anything officially incredible in the galleries but heres what I see with my newbie eyes ;) Concept of this is brilliant, reminds me a bit of those infinite reflection shots done with mirrors with everything diminishing into the distance, but this twists that idea with the different chars all going smaller in scale. Very cool! Posing = Fantastic, everything looks really natural and well aligned, especially the fairy sitting on the large hand. Her expression is also very good for this render. Models, well yer using chikako elven items, cant do any better than the best :) All I can come up with here as constructive criticism would be that the face of the fairy looks a little plastic, like default poser material. I cant see any eyelashes and only a hint of eyebrows, The eyes seem a bit lifeless, prob cause of no sheen or natural wetness look, and it occours to me that if you moved her eyes to look at the pegasus she is holding it might have been a cool touch :) Otherwise the body texture on that fairy is just stunning. Beautiful colors but I cant help but see those flames as old-school american muscle car body paint, rather than a fantasy look (thats me being uber-anal-retentive though, dont let that bug ya!) Its possible that the face texture if you have one applied would come alive with different lighting. RDNA has a deep selection of free lightsets of retail quality, most by Traveler, so you might check those out if you havent a lot of retail lights to experiment with. If you havent textured the face however, Id say that would be a big step in bringing more out of this render. Overall a very very awesome job. I can spend literally two months or more banging out the details of a render I want to be "just right" to my eye, Id say youve accomplised a great deal in 2 weeks! Keep it up :) Logan

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I like the overall concept of the image. I agree that the outfit the faery is wearing is beautiful and I like the posing very much. The hand she is resting on is large, but it appears "gentle". However, the prespective seems off to me. The hand and the faery seem too large, next to the stairs and the faery standing on the landing. The hand is behind the object so that puts the building closer, which makes the hand and faery appear "Kong" size. The left side of the image is dark and blah compared to the right side. I found myself focusing more on the large faery than the whole image. Maybe spread some light towards the building... or "light" up the windows and add a bit of a "glow" outside the windows. Diana gave me an excellent tip on how to do that in post work, and it's very easy and very effective! Other than those 2 things, I love the whole concept of what you did.

I do live for feedback, so many many thanks.

I agree the face is less then I wanted it to be.
Plastic is a great description.
It has no other textures other then the extra map textures from DAZ.
I can't tell you how many times I've adjusted her head to try and give her a better look.

Lighting I've always thought was the difference between good & Fantastic. I've learned alot, the tuts here are great but I still have some more studying & experimenting to do yet.

One thing I tryed to do is keep the light real.
So you've got the "sun" shining in from our right so then light from our left wouldn't make sense? Right??? I had stronger light on our left but coudn't get myself to keep it.
Adding lights from the Elven Village windows is an awesome idea!!!
Laura being my main eye point in the scene is kinda why the left is dark & blah. But it did turn out blaher then I wanted it. I think Photoshop can enhance this but not sure where to start.

The "Kong" size look was intentional.
I purposely put the branches close to give off that effect.
There are three sizes of charactors in the scene.
The "Hand" being the giant, who's kneeling. ")
Laura being the standard Faery size.
Steph & Pegasus very very tiny.

Having another two weeks to tweak I would redo Lauras suit.
Color changes in her suit went from outrageous to dull to what It is now. Somehow I started out with flames, this being my first complex texture & map I decided to just go with it.
And I just noticed a pose error in the body suit. Arhg!!!!
God I hate that. Nothings ever final is it? :)

Other then it not having that "stand out" appearence that I've seen in the gallery I am pretty happy with it.

Thanks again for the feedback.

Keep it coming. :>)

Scott

{Quote} Logansfury mkay, I dont think ive really put anything officially incredible in the galleries but heres what I see with my newbie eyes ;) I have to disagree. You've some very nice stuff. Thanks again. Scott

Quote - Nothings ever final is it? :)

There is no such thing as "perfection" when it comes to art. Everyone is a critic and no matter what, someone will always find something that they deem to be a "flaw". There comes a time when you just have to tell yourself "I like it. I'm happy with it. I'm finished it!", and then move on to the next project. Can I take a portion of your image and see what adding a glow to the windows would look like?

Yes I 'ld be interested in seeing what you can do with it.

Perfection I've always thought, kinda corny though, is found only in the dictionary. Thought I do mostly try to acheive it.

So I've been working on this some more between some chores "(.

I've been trying to do the posing of lights myself since my start.
It kinda falls into my "why buy poses for a program called poser" thoery. ")

I did go to RDNA and downloaded some of there free light sets.
I tryed to follow the tutorials here about a lights properties. And after messing up my lights pretty badly I'm not so amazed at the properties of RDNA's lights. Thought some of them follow a tutorials recomendations some do not. From what I can tell the differences in properties when you have alot of lights makes the difference. The main lights seems to follow the ideas in tuts.

Anyway, don't know if I'm hooked yet on preset lights. But with possible MINOR tweaking to there properties color ect they save a bunch of time.")

I also have been looking into the advice above and it seems when I recreated the scene the 2nd time, Laura lost her tone.
Mostly I was adjusting my lights per Laura but was getting poor results on the other objects. So it was a trade off.
After adding professional lights & better tones the image really came to life.
I'm doing some more changes now, mostly redoing the Body Suit as I agree it's to Hot Roddish, I will repost it when it's done.

Thanks for your comments.
Greatly appreciated!
Love your work. Great suttle lights. Very nice keep em coming.

Scott

Thanks for the kind words Scott :)