Hello all.I currently use DAZ Studio for my artwork. I am contiplating buying Poser because I hear that there is so much more you can do with it.Only problem is.....I have read reviews and poeple don't seem to be to pleased with Poser (frequent crashes,hard to use). What can you guys tell me about it and which version is better to use.Also does anyone know where I can get it for less than $250 Thanks Karice

Poser 6 is the latest version. As for "best", well in my opinion, it is. I find it to be totally stable and reliable. Others don't. I have never once had it crash or lock up. I wouldn't bother getting any version of Poser other than P6, since DAZ studio has most of the functionality of Poser 4. Most people would bypass Poser 5 anyhow, as an aberration. Me, I used it for over a year and thought it was fine but P6 has a lot more features. Can't help you on the price, unfortunately.

Hello Reciecup, I also have D|S and switched to Poser. Like you I heard so many great and not so great things about it. But curiosity got the best of me and I bought it. I'm not that good with it so far, but it seems so much easier to set up scenes in P6 than it was in D|S. The lighing and camera handling is a lot simpler. dressing your characters is about the same. The material room is a dream, and the capability to create custom pose files is great. The little bit I've played in the cloting room has been a blast. The only thing I can say that I truly like in D|S over P6 is that in D|S it's faster to switch between libraries. That my two cents worth. Oh yeah, if your stateside you can order Poser online from Compusa for $200.00. Stew451

SamTherapy's said some things I agree with for your case. I use both Poser6 and DS nowadays. In the earlier times pre-DS v1 when DS was still being improved upon, it was a lot less reliable for some things. (I think it is still being improved upon on a smaller scale - tweaks here and there.) Poser6 (Service Release 2, mind) continues to make me want to trash it on occasion, like my recent combined foray into its Cloth Room and Walk Animation functions. There are some issues related to it being unable to use what is called multi-threaded Python. But produce results for me, it will. I avoided building an empire of DS-only file format content, because there was no way I could "share" it with Poser 6. On the other hand, Poser 6 scenes can be imported into DS - provided you do several things: switch off saving with external morphs, switch off using compressed file formats, and do not expect the Materials settings to cross-over correctly, for starters. There is quite a lot of emerging content for P6 which you cannot use in DS ( yet ? ever ?). You probably also want to decide based on how much of a return on investment you are going to get whichever route you decide to build your 3D projects on.

Thank you SamTherapy, stew451, and infinity10 for your responses.I do look into getting poser as an investment considering I plan to sell poser products (cant make inj poses in DAZ).I have been serching the web and found that e-frontier offers a trial version.Maybe I'll try that first.Thanx again :o) Karice

Attached Link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0009ZHG44/qid=1138592217/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-846

You might be able to get it on ebay for a good price.

By the nature of the beast, Poser is the best 3D program you can get! The learning curve surpasses other programs with leaps and bounds! It's render engine challenges other 3D programs with price stickers 10 times it's own. Just don't expect to run a render farm with anything you've done/learned at least for a few more versions...

Okay I just tried the demo version......I am actually dissapointed.I'm not sure if it was my computer or if it was the program but when I launched P6 it encountered an error and shut down before the credits began to roll.But I did get it started back up......and I must admit that compared to DAZ it's a little harder to work with.But I am just a beginner and being the hardheaded chick that I am, I don't plan on giving up on it.The interface is a bit confusing.If there is a good beginner tutorial (just on creating my first figure and getting it ready for postwork)someone PLEASE point me to it.I couldn't figure out the hair room either.The face room was really cool but how do you get the face on the body.I guess what I'm trying to say is how do you put it all together once yoou got the face, material, cloth, and hair fixed up.There are a lot of "Apply to figure" buttons but they didn't seem to do anything. thanks Karice :o)

But those $129 are for the upgrade only... ;-)

Uhmmmm... the first one on the left says Poser 6 Full or Upgrade. I think it's for both. :)

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PS. I think I would go through Content Paradise - unless S&H is about $50! :)

That's just because Content Paradise got the Upgrades and Full products on the same page. Select the full version and it'll tell you that that is an additional $120

Karice; Search the forums here for 'Dr. Geep'. He's made....quite a few...tutorials for Poser that apply from P4 onward. Check them out.... ;)

YES!

Get Poser 6, its a universe better than Daz Studio. Ive used DAZ Studio and it isnt good - its difficult to work with and I couldnt get it to produce good results - maybe a few versions down the line it will be but not at the moment.
Poser 6 is far and away a better package in my opinion.

"and I must admit that compared to DAZ it's a little harder to work with" Don't feel bad. I came to Poser from Blender and I thought Poser was 'a little harder to work with' then ;) Any new interface takes some getting used to. Do a few Geep tuts and you'll be up to speed soon enough.

Yeah, Dizzi's right - just checked it out and the way they have it set up is very misleading - they should have said "from $129." In that case.... ebay or Amazon.com look like the best bet. I'd go with Amazon - at least you get free shipping! :)

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Does anyone know where I could find the Geep tutorials.I searched but with no luck.

I think searching here, in the forums is the easyest way to learn, that's what I've done. If you've searched and failed, just pose a question about what is is you're trying to do, with any nice screenshots you can add. Just don't ask too many questions at one. Sometimes people will do tutorials for your posts. What is it you want to do first?

http://www.renderosity.com/messages.ez?ForumID=12356&Form.ShowMessage=2063281

You could have found if in the Poser backroom, tutorials link on the right hand side. Message edited on: 01/30/2006 12:11

I just want a step by step tutorial on creating my first figure in poser.(if that's not too hard to explain)

Open the library palette (SHIFT+CTRL+B or via the "Window" menu) then browse to the figure you want to use etc. Double clicking one it should bring it into the scene (you may want to change the preferences, they used to be replace, rather than add to the scene). You can also use the double checkmark on the bottom of the library palette to add to the scene, the single one to replace the selected figure. Well, everything else you should know from Studio. Use CTRL + R to render...

okay....maybe I am making this harder than it should be but I did all of that.I made the face and hit the "apply to figure" button. But when I go back to the figure only the face morphs show but no texture.How do I set it up to where I can see the whole body while working on the face and so on(kind of like the display in DAZ) or is this not possible?

I'd suggest to check the "Poser 6 Reference Manual.pdf" that should have been installed to the root of the Poser 6 folder. Chapter 16 may help you customize the document window. Lower hand side of the preview tab's you can choose from different viewpane layouts...

thank you all for your help

Sounds like you've entered the so-called "face room", the tab labeled "Face" on the upper side of the working window. The Face room is considered advanced stuff. DAZ|Studio does not have a comparable tool. In fact, DAZ|Studio has the equivalent of the Pose room plus a limited version of the Material room. All other "rooms" (tabs), like Face, Hair, Cloth, Setup and Content (of which the Content window is fairly useless) do not have an equivalent in DAZ|Studio. I'd advise getting familiar with the Pose room first. Most of it works more or less like you're used to in DAZ|Studio. Next step would be the Material room. Some things might look familiar, others will be new. Then on to the Cloth room - dynamic cloth rocks, and there are quite a few good tutorials about. The Hair room (dynamic hair, mostly useful for animations) isn't used very often by P6 users - yet. There are few tutorials. The Setup room is only useful if you want to create your own figures from (imported) props. Most Poser users never enter the Setup room. Poser 6 has LOTS of options and capabilities. Take it slow. And Dr. Geep's tutorials are the best you can get.