Hi, basically I tried rendering poser figures in vue 5 esprit but the moment I want anything in any decent quality for film editing, it takes about 64 hours to render 4 seconds of film. This is at 300,000 polygons. I have an amd x2 processor at 3800mhz and an nvidia GeForce 6800 GS graphics card, 2 gigabytes of ram. I decided therefore to render the environment seperate to my poser figure and add shadows in post production after putting them two film clips together using alpha channels. problem - Pinnacle studio 8 doesn't support this. Not only that but this version of pinnacle and every other version that has come out is really unstable and has a tendency to crash while rendering. I want to find a cheap and reliable program that allows me to use alpha channels and do post production work - alternatively could someone help me with my slllllooowwww rendering problem? Perhaps I could import vue 5 esprit environments into poser - poser seems to render faster than vue...

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Questions? Are you over rendering? A DVD has only 720x480 pixels. Unless you are going to trasfure to some other high end media, its best to render only to the size you need. Save your files just in case someone wants your work and they can pay for Respower. Do your have any other computers? Try splitting the work on to other computers. I did an 11 minute movie in 6 months by setting up on one computer and moving the shots on to the other computers to render. Vue's rendering farm doesn't work Play with Vue's rendering settings. Most of the generic settings in Vue is over kill. With one of the weirdest lay outs try this editor. It has a very good chroma key. http://www.zs4.net/downloads Dale

I have a laptop but it's too slow to run vue. Rendercow is a pile of crap that crashes on the first frame. I lost my serial code so I can't download the fix. I was rendering at 600x400 resolution at 72dpi. I cannot imagine why it is taking so long. But besides the point, do you know of any good film editing programs that have post production tools and use "green screeN'type alpha channeling?

I have Pinnacle Studio 8 and I don't consider it to be a post production software... For a free compositor you can try Jahshaka :)

Jahshaka seems like an excellent video FX editor for free. I use Combustion, and the look and feel of Jahshaka is very similar to it.

sony vegas movie studio + dvd has a good green screen facility that you can use to overlay video onto a background video track.

free demo download. also for ntsc video anything over 16 bit color is a waste of time. some video editors only go 12 bit. so 720 x 480 x 16 bit color is all you need.

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I use Carrara rather than Vue, but have a similar config of PC, and those rendering speeds definitely sound as though something is badly wrong in your settings. I suggest you do some trial renders with basic (draft mode?) settings. Do you still have the problem? If so, it would indicate a PC problem. If not, it's a Vue setting. Start to change Vue settings gradually until you find the one that's causing the problem. I would also strongly recommend that you dump Pinnacle in favour of Sony Movie Studio. However, even though it supports chromakeying ("Green Screen"), you will get much better results with alpha channels (and you won't have to worry about what colour clothes your characters are wearing).

To separate my posers from the background I do this: I render the characters with any background color. I remove the lights and save as a different file. Then I render against a white background. I open combustion and bring both clips in. I apply a "set matte" effect to the character layer and use the black-white clip as matte source. I set to "inverse luminance" and voila :)

nemirc - this may be a silly question, but why don't you just render with an alpha channel? I thought that combustion supported it.

Call me dumb but I can't find the "alpha channel" option in Poser 4 XD

I take it that Poser 4 didn't support alpha. So it was a silly question :)